If you think everyone wants to know the truth about something or other, then sure, I’ll cautiously agree. But if you think that everyone is going to agree on the same universal truth merely because of its convincing presentation, I’d say you’re kidding yourself.

So, again, we’re back to square one: if you like the Russians and you have whichever reason for it, then fine. I think they’re great, too. And as long as you have an unconditional respect for them that doesn’t depend on their cultural way of life being compatible with yours (and America’s), then I’d say you’re consistent and in good form. Just beware that your pleasant-sounding racial kinship theory just might have to collide with any unpleasant world of facts so many years down the line.

With me as an American though, looking at Russian cultural traits I feel like I’m looking at something familiar, like they remind me of the crazy men who shot their way across a wild Continent, only stopping when they reached the Pacific Ocean.

There hasn’t been much genetic divergence in thousands of years.

Anyway, what does the distant future have to do with anything?

My brother could become the father of different Tribe, does something that could happen in the future stop him from being my brother?

“It’s not as though the Sunnis and Shi’ites who are constantly warring are doing so because of any genetic discrepancy.”

How do you know? At least in Iran the Shiites are descended from the Persians, whereas the Sunnis in Iraq are descended mostly from Arab Tribesmen.

So with the Sunnis and Shiites their ancestors going back to the dawn of known time weren’t even speaking languages from the same family.

This might indicate significant racial differences.

After all, the Middle East is not Europe, and probably doesn’t share Europe’s extremely unusual degree of Genetic Uniformity.

“In fact I’d say this materialist obsession with genetics is something uniquely Western. Rarely do I come across Russian academics with as much fetishistic interest in this as the Westerners.”

What exactly do they do all day, sit around Ouija Boards to consort with the Spirit World?

You’re saying they don’t care about this funny old thing called material reality. I find that hard to believe.

“It just makes very little sense to me to hear someone say, ‘Well, theoretically, we should all get along because our genetics are the same.’”

I don’t recall saying that.

My point was that I have a profound genetic stake in the success of the Russian People due to our relatedness.

Obviously there’s been far too many fratricidal conflicts even in Western History, especially in the wicked time called the 20th Century.

Nothing says there couldn’t be more such conflicts, if we aren’t careful.

Thank God Almighty in the Heavens above that John McCain, that Jew controlled piece of shit who wanted to murder as many Whites in Russia as he could, lost the 2008 Presidential Election.

Obama has had an intelligent Russia policy, and as long as we keep having Presidents like him and Russia avoids having leaders like Khrushchev, everything’s going to be fine.

In a PCA, the individuals tested are closer together if they are more related. If one is depicted on top of the other, it means they are nearly identical in comparison to the average individual tested.

“It’s not surprising, for example, if Americans of Russian origin completely overlap with Russians.”

At 20% of the 556 White Gentile Americans tested overlapped with the Russians tested.

The chances that a sample of 556 White Americans would turn out to be 20% Russian-American is infinitesimal when you consider that Russians are well less than 2% of American Whites.

“And, as already mentioned, Russians do not constitute a homogeneous ethnic group. Northern Russians have another ethnic history than southern Russians…”

Do you have any reason to think the Russians tested in the study were only from the North?

Anyway, even though they didn’t specify whether the Russians came from the North or South, they did analyze 17 members of the Adygei, a group from the Caucasus with origins to the south of even the most southerly Russians.

What they found is that even most of the Adygei overlap with American Whites, with more than 70% of them perfectly overlapping with European-Americans!

So just imagine how much Southern Russians must overlap with White Americans.

I agree on the genetics and IQ argument, but the enormous differences in culture between Western Europe and Russia strike me as potentially founded in different evolutionary pre-history (or, as you seem to suggest, just different history).

Sure, the West vs Russia dichotomy can easily be explained by cultural history (see, for example, Orlando Figes’ book “Natasha’s Dance”), completely different family structures etc. But is that the whole story? I don’t know.

Russia has been ruled by Western European elites for centuries (first the Scandinavians in the Kievan period, then the Germans, French etc. in the post-Petrine Petersburg period). But their culture remained an elite phenomenon, and never had any deeper impact on the larger population.

It just makes very little sense to me to hear someone say, “Well, theoretically, we should all get along because our genetics are the same.” Just look at Africa, an area so accustomed to be made up of sovereign small bands that they’ll pick virtually any reason for conflict and lack of unity. If genetics fails to be the dividing line between two distinct peoples, it’ll be something else to do it. Linguistic differences, religious differences, greed, etc.

My point is ultimately that genetics has nothing to do with the irreconcilability between Russia and the West. You can even say, “Oh, but both populations have the same IQ scores!” and it doesn’t matter whatsoever, because a man’s values, aesthetics, politics, economics and erotics aren’t determined solely by his IQ. and his inward organic needs are on a plane entirely incommensurable with the whole notion of genetics and IQ and etc.

But seeing this discussion has actually given me a thought: perhaps it is the genetic analyses from folks like JP Rushton, Richard Lynn, et al that mislead people into thinking that white Russians and the rest of Europe are cut from the same cloth? I’ll have to think about it some more.