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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-5129</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eurodele,

&quot;I’d have to see the results of a few genetic and psychometric tests to be sure that this particular breeding exercise has not been harmful to the long-term prospects of humanity in general. &quot;

I agree that in-breeding is a concern.  Obviously genetic variety is essential to the health of a population.  If I had 20 wives, I would have most of them being impregnated by &quot;genius seed&quot;.  The town of Bountiful, Canada, would then become a famous birthplace of Canada&#039;s most accomplished. 

&quot;the idea that gifted and empathic leaders, who may need more nurturance and a larger share of resources to fully realize their potential, can be expected to emerge from a situation in which resources are evenly divided by law among increasingly many (mostly unexceptional) children – in some ways contradicts my own experience, not to mention a considerable body of developmental and educational theory.&quot;

Gifted children - particularly the profoundly gifted - certainly need a lot of nurturance.  This is a subject I have been doing quite a bit of reading on.  I think a big part of successfully raising them related to just not screwing them up, not expecting them to be &quot;normal&quot; and not putting them in a school situation where they will be ridiculed outcasts.  A lot of their education will probably be self-directed, with the child seeking out material of interest while being guided by the parent.

I believe that having peers is also important, which is why I want to work with other families.  As someone from a fairly large family (7 kids), my best friends having also been mainly from big families, I can say that having a lot of kids can be a really great thing when growing up.  I think this is a built-in factor as we have evolved living in large families (since the dawn of Whitey, just about every family was large until the 1950s).  Benjamin Franklin&#039;s family had 13 children, and its probable that the majority of the greatest men of the West had many siblings.  This does require wise and loving parents though, fortunately mine were this way.  If you watch the Duggar family (19 kids, they have a reality show on Discovery channel), I think you will get a sense that the (homeschooled) children are very happy and well-adjusted.  In childhood, there is just no substitute for siblings that have cameraderie, you end up with best friends for life that are always there for you.

Anyway, it sounds like you may have some insights on education for the gifted.  If you would like to send me a quick email at gm [at] lordsofconquest [dot] com, I would like to contact you once I have my program underway, and possibly get some advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eurodele,</p>
<p>&#8220;I’d have to see the results of a few genetic and psychometric tests to be sure that this particular breeding exercise has not been harmful to the long-term prospects of humanity in general. &#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that in-breeding is a concern.  Obviously genetic variety is essential to the health of a population.  If I had 20 wives, I would have most of them being impregnated by &#8220;genius seed&#8221;.  The town of Bountiful, Canada, would then become a famous birthplace of Canada&#8217;s most accomplished. </p>
<p>&#8220;the idea that gifted and empathic leaders, who may need more nurturance and a larger share of resources to fully realize their potential, can be expected to emerge from a situation in which resources are evenly divided by law among increasingly many (mostly unexceptional) children – in some ways contradicts my own experience, not to mention a considerable body of developmental and educational theory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gifted children &#8211; particularly the profoundly gifted &#8211; certainly need a lot of nurturance.  This is a subject I have been doing quite a bit of reading on.  I think a big part of successfully raising them related to just not screwing them up, not expecting them to be &#8220;normal&#8221; and not putting them in a school situation where they will be ridiculed outcasts.  A lot of their education will probably be self-directed, with the child seeking out material of interest while being guided by the parent.</p>
<p>I believe that having peers is also important, which is why I want to work with other families.  As someone from a fairly large family (7 kids), my best friends having also been mainly from big families, I can say that having a lot of kids can be a really great thing when growing up.  I think this is a built-in factor as we have evolved living in large families (since the dawn of Whitey, just about every family was large until the 1950s).  Benjamin Franklin&#8217;s family had 13 children, and its probable that the majority of the greatest men of the West had many siblings.  This does require wise and loving parents though, fortunately mine were this way.  If you watch the Duggar family (19 kids, they have a reality show on Discovery channel), I think you will get a sense that the (homeschooled) children are very happy and well-adjusted.  In childhood, there is just no substitute for siblings that have cameraderie, you end up with best friends for life that are always there for you.</p>
<p>Anyway, it sounds like you may have some insights on education for the gifted.  If you would like to send me a quick email at gm [at] lordsofconquest [dot] com, I would like to contact you once I have my program underway, and possibly get some advice.</p>
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		<title>By: eurodele</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-5098</link>
		<dc:creator>eurodele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got through on that link, Andrew and Reginald. The Canadian Mormon children of whom you write seem to be attractive and at least not conspicuously stupid. I&#039;m almost pleasantly surprised! But I&#039;d have to see the results of a few genetic and psychometric tests to be sure that this particular breeding exercise has not been harmful to the long-term prospects of humanity in general. 

After all, if (e.g.) half of these children were to end up in medical facilities because they suffer from some sort of genetic disease - and by the way, we can&#039;t necessarily tell whether this is the case yet, or even hazard an educated guess based on mere superficial examination of their parents - then they might well constitute so heavy a drain on total resources that not even the political and military support provided by their healthier siblings could make up for it.

What each of you has written provides food for thought. However, some parts of it - in particular, the idea that gifted and empathic leaders, who may need more nurturance and a larger share of resources to fully realize their potential, can be expected to emerge from a situation in which resources are evenly divided by law among increasingly many (mostly unexceptional) children - in some ways contradicts my own experience, not to mention a considerable body of developmental and educational theory. 

Trust me when I say that despite the attention sometimes lavished on gifted children and seeming public enthuiasm for &quot;gifted education&quot;, the reality of the situation is really quite abysmal. The more gifted a child - especially a White child, who is much less attractive to PC educators than one of the &quot;minority&quot; (non-White) children whose minds are such &quot;terrible things to waste&quot; - the more likely it is that he (or she) will be systematically alienated by other children and their parents through a combination of selfishness, resentment, meaningless competition, and sheer resource-starvation.      

But these problems may be solvable, and you&#039;ve definitely given me a lot to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got through on that link, Andrew and Reginald. The Canadian Mormon children of whom you write seem to be attractive and at least not conspicuously stupid. I&#8217;m almost pleasantly surprised! But I&#8217;d have to see the results of a few genetic and psychometric tests to be sure that this particular breeding exercise has not been harmful to the long-term prospects of humanity in general. </p>
<p>After all, if (e.g.) half of these children were to end up in medical facilities because they suffer from some sort of genetic disease &#8211; and by the way, we can&#8217;t necessarily tell whether this is the case yet, or even hazard an educated guess based on mere superficial examination of their parents &#8211; then they might well constitute so heavy a drain on total resources that not even the political and military support provided by their healthier siblings could make up for it.</p>
<p>What each of you has written provides food for thought. However, some parts of it &#8211; in particular, the idea that gifted and empathic leaders, who may need more nurturance and a larger share of resources to fully realize their potential, can be expected to emerge from a situation in which resources are evenly divided by law among increasingly many (mostly unexceptional) children &#8211; in some ways contradicts my own experience, not to mention a considerable body of developmental and educational theory. </p>
<p>Trust me when I say that despite the attention sometimes lavished on gifted children and seeming public enthuiasm for &#8220;gifted education&#8221;, the reality of the situation is really quite abysmal. The more gifted a child &#8211; especially a White child, who is much less attractive to PC educators than one of the &#8220;minority&#8221; (non-White) children whose minds are such &#8220;terrible things to waste&#8221; &#8211; the more likely it is that he (or she) will be systematically alienated by other children and their parents through a combination of selfishness, resentment, meaningless competition, and sheer resource-starvation.      </p>
<p>But these problems may be solvable, and you&#8217;ve definitely given me a lot to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your link doesn’t work (from here) at the present time, Andrew, so I haven’t yet managed to view your “high-IQ” polygamist or his kids. But when I do, will I see anything to change my opinion? &quot;

I think so.  There are tons of blonde, blue-eyed nordic kids!  No one has a portruding forehead, buck teeth or is walleyed.  Try this link:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Overview/07797_00
Click on &quot;Video&quot; to see the video.  Or just search the internet for &quot;national geographic&quot; and &quot;bountiful&quot;.

&quot;I doubt it. As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool.&quot;

I would look at these Whites as allies for your own children.  In a world that will be 95% non-White (5% of the world&#039;s children are of European descent), all Europeans will have a pressing need to band together.  You stated before that you didn’t see a need for the masses.  But if tomorrow morning, you woke up, and there were 1 million 100-IQ whites camped en masse outside your house, ready to pledge their allegiance to you as their  fearless leader, you would have tremendous power to change the US (you could take over 3 states with those votes, for example).  If you found 100 super high-IQ individuals camped outside, wanting you to lead them, you wouldn’t be that much better off than now.  And with no one camped outside, you are left with very little power to change the world at all, even if you are .  The masses do help, and they are needed for the elites to get anything done.   

&quot;You have, after all, admitted that “it takes huge quantities of resources to support” the kids of such people. Hasn’t it occurred to you that the offspring of the superintelligent may have better things to do with their lives than fight with the kids of less intelligent people over a rapidly dwindling pie?&quot;

I see it more as competition between groups.  Whites, who do not even reproduce themselves, are a dwindling group.  They are in competition with the Hispanics, Asians, Indians, Arabs, Africans, etc. who do reproduce themselves and then some, and want what Whitey has.  Human survival is a team sport, after all.  As a White, it benefits you to have other team members.  It is very natural that as time goes on, Whites will be forced to coalesce and develop a solid ethnic identity, as the competition for resources becomes ever more fierce.  What other choice will they have?  In the future, any progeny you have will benefit tremendously from co-ethnics who will be there to support them.  Please remember that as indicated in the latest TOO article, there are many groups quite hostile to Whites, who would celebrate the European gene pool being erased permanently from the earth (your genes included).  I think that you should consider the hordes of hispanics, battalions of blacks and arsenal of asians as the competition, and the plethora of polygamists and brigade of breeders like me as your allies.

&quot; would you by any chance be huffing airplane glue?&quot;

No, but sometimes I smell my socks.

&quot;By the way, I didn’t realize that you were implementing a “high IQ breeding strategy” of your very own. Typically, one would expect such a strategy to involve the close participation of known high-IQ people, preferably the most extreme specimens available.&quot;

Im still about 18-24 months away from starting this.  I know another individual at the Occidental Dissent blog who is interested in participation currently.  

&quot;Just for the sake of curiosity, would you mind explaining to us the exact nature of your strategy?&quot;

I mentioned this in my previous post:

I do understand that most truly great and accomplished individuals throughout history have had very high IQs (this is an important quality, though such things as drive, ambition, vision, morality, character, good sense, etc. are also necessary to some extent). Actually, I have designed a plan that I seriously do intend to implement in the future. The idea is that I assemble a group of families together. Each family would help support one or more single ladies, or be married to them polygamously. Each of these ladies would bear several children through artificial insemination with very high quality “seed”. All of the children would be homeschooled, and raised to become the leaders of a movement to help lead the awakening of Whites. In 20-30 years time, there would be a large number of very intelligent, capable, well-trained individuals arriving on the scene exactly when they are needed the most (near when Whites are reaching minority status). I think that raising children now is the most effective thing that any White Nationalist can do. In fact, if Dr. Pierce had concentrated his efforts on this, he would have had a much greater impact on the movement.

Some additional details:
1)  I envision eventually gathering about a dozen families together, with perhaps 10-30 women who would be bearing children.  This would probably be the maximum of people that I would be able to manage (there will need to be constant coordination, contact and support to keep everything together).
2)  Obviously, you want the mothers to have the best genetic quality.  However, because high-IQ women are rare, it is probably more reasonable to expect to be able to attract women in the 110-IQ range.  They would need to be young-ish (in their 20s preferably), decent, normal and healthy, without any significant inherited problems.  There are a lot of single women out there that could be attracted to this kind of program (I know a couple of them already).
3)  The adopting parents will need to be dependable, decent, moral people, who are committed to raising their adopted children.  In any case where things didn’t work out, I would bring the moms into my household.
4)  The high-IQ seed would ideally be from really smart people, especially those that are accomplished in leadership (assuming that this is an inherited trait).  According to Reginald&#039;s information, if a 110-IQ woman was impregnated with 180-IQ &quot;seed&quot;, the resulting children would have an average IQ of 145, which would be good leadership material (it is likely that there would be a wide spread of ability though).  I have contacted an individual who worked with Robert Graham in his &quot;Repository for Germinal Choice&quot;, who still operates a &quot;genius sperm bank&quot; in California, although he only has 3 available donors (who are very accomplished individuals though).  According to Slate magazine, Graham&#039;s efforts resulted in something like 200 children.  Only two are known about, one is a guy with an IQ of 180, the other is a girl with an IQ of 150.  This is encouraging evidence that the project would be successful.
5)  A big part of the success of the project is education.  I am currently studying online to get my teaching credential (finishing in December), and plan to teach for a number of years to strengthen my skills in this area (I also get income from a side business I have).  Having already done student teaching in public schools, I understand what a boondoggle they are, which is why homeschooling is necessary (the average homeschooler is in the 80th percentile in academic achievement).  I envision a very traditional program, concentrating on Western Civilization rather than ebonics, including outdoors activities like hiking, hunting and adventure rather than not being permitted to run on the playground.

The project is going to be a challenging one, with a lot of work involved, but its going to be my legacy and life&#039;s work.  I cant imagine anything more worthwhile that I could spend my time on.  And its going to be awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your link doesn’t work (from here) at the present time, Andrew, so I haven’t yet managed to view your “high-IQ” polygamist or his kids. But when I do, will I see anything to change my opinion? &#8221;</p>
<p>I think so.  There are tons of blonde, blue-eyed nordic kids!  No one has a portruding forehead, buck teeth or is walleyed.  Try this link:<br />
<a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Overview/07797_00" rel="nofollow">http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Overview/07797_00</a><br />
Click on &#8220;Video&#8221; to see the video.  Or just search the internet for &#8220;national geographic&#8221; and &#8220;bountiful&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I doubt it. As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would look at these Whites as allies for your own children.  In a world that will be 95% non-White (5% of the world&#8217;s children are of European descent), all Europeans will have a pressing need to band together.  You stated before that you didn’t see a need for the masses.  But if tomorrow morning, you woke up, and there were 1 million 100-IQ whites camped en masse outside your house, ready to pledge their allegiance to you as their  fearless leader, you would have tremendous power to change the US (you could take over 3 states with those votes, for example).  If you found 100 super high-IQ individuals camped outside, wanting you to lead them, you wouldn’t be that much better off than now.  And with no one camped outside, you are left with very little power to change the world at all, even if you are .  The masses do help, and they are needed for the elites to get anything done.   </p>
<p>&#8220;You have, after all, admitted that “it takes huge quantities of resources to support” the kids of such people. Hasn’t it occurred to you that the offspring of the superintelligent may have better things to do with their lives than fight with the kids of less intelligent people over a rapidly dwindling pie?&#8221;</p>
<p>I see it more as competition between groups.  Whites, who do not even reproduce themselves, are a dwindling group.  They are in competition with the Hispanics, Asians, Indians, Arabs, Africans, etc. who do reproduce themselves and then some, and want what Whitey has.  Human survival is a team sport, after all.  As a White, it benefits you to have other team members.  It is very natural that as time goes on, Whites will be forced to coalesce and develop a solid ethnic identity, as the competition for resources becomes ever more fierce.  What other choice will they have?  In the future, any progeny you have will benefit tremendously from co-ethnics who will be there to support them.  Please remember that as indicated in the latest TOO article, there are many groups quite hostile to Whites, who would celebrate the European gene pool being erased permanently from the earth (your genes included).  I think that you should consider the hordes of hispanics, battalions of blacks and arsenal of asians as the competition, and the plethora of polygamists and brigade of breeders like me as your allies.</p>
<p>&#8221; would you by any chance be huffing airplane glue?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, but sometimes I smell my socks.</p>
<p>&#8220;By the way, I didn’t realize that you were implementing a “high IQ breeding strategy” of your very own. Typically, one would expect such a strategy to involve the close participation of known high-IQ people, preferably the most extreme specimens available.&#8221;</p>
<p>Im still about 18-24 months away from starting this.  I know another individual at the Occidental Dissent blog who is interested in participation currently.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Just for the sake of curiosity, would you mind explaining to us the exact nature of your strategy?&#8221;</p>
<p>I mentioned this in my previous post:</p>
<p>I do understand that most truly great and accomplished individuals throughout history have had very high IQs (this is an important quality, though such things as drive, ambition, vision, morality, character, good sense, etc. are also necessary to some extent). Actually, I have designed a plan that I seriously do intend to implement in the future. The idea is that I assemble a group of families together. Each family would help support one or more single ladies, or be married to them polygamously. Each of these ladies would bear several children through artificial insemination with very high quality “seed”. All of the children would be homeschooled, and raised to become the leaders of a movement to help lead the awakening of Whites. In 20-30 years time, there would be a large number of very intelligent, capable, well-trained individuals arriving on the scene exactly when they are needed the most (near when Whites are reaching minority status). I think that raising children now is the most effective thing that any White Nationalist can do. In fact, if Dr. Pierce had concentrated his efforts on this, he would have had a much greater impact on the movement.</p>
<p>Some additional details:<br />
1)  I envision eventually gathering about a dozen families together, with perhaps 10-30 women who would be bearing children.  This would probably be the maximum of people that I would be able to manage (there will need to be constant coordination, contact and support to keep everything together).<br />
2)  Obviously, you want the mothers to have the best genetic quality.  However, because high-IQ women are rare, it is probably more reasonable to expect to be able to attract women in the 110-IQ range.  They would need to be young-ish (in their 20s preferably), decent, normal and healthy, without any significant inherited problems.  There are a lot of single women out there that could be attracted to this kind of program (I know a couple of them already).<br />
3)  The adopting parents will need to be dependable, decent, moral people, who are committed to raising their adopted children.  In any case where things didn’t work out, I would bring the moms into my household.<br />
4)  The high-IQ seed would ideally be from really smart people, especially those that are accomplished in leadership (assuming that this is an inherited trait).  According to Reginald&#8217;s information, if a 110-IQ woman was impregnated with 180-IQ &#8220;seed&#8221;, the resulting children would have an average IQ of 145, which would be good leadership material (it is likely that there would be a wide spread of ability though).  I have contacted an individual who worked with Robert Graham in his &#8220;Repository for Germinal Choice&#8221;, who still operates a &#8220;genius sperm bank&#8221; in California, although he only has 3 available donors (who are very accomplished individuals though).  According to Slate magazine, Graham&#8217;s efforts resulted in something like 200 children.  Only two are known about, one is a guy with an IQ of 180, the other is a girl with an IQ of 150.  This is encouraging evidence that the project would be successful.<br />
5)  A big part of the success of the project is education.  I am currently studying online to get my teaching credential (finishing in December), and plan to teach for a number of years to strengthen my skills in this area (I also get income from a side business I have).  Having already done student teaching in public schools, I understand what a boondoggle they are, which is why homeschooling is necessary (the average homeschooler is in the 80th percentile in academic achievement).  I envision a very traditional program, concentrating on Western Civilization rather than ebonics, including outdoors activities like hiking, hunting and adventure rather than not being permitted to run on the playground.</p>
<p>The project is going to be a challenging one, with a lot of work involved, but its going to be my legacy and life&#8217;s work.  I cant imagine anything more worthwhile that I could spend my time on.  And its going to be awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reginald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool.&quot;

eurodele,

They&#039;d be trying to do that no more than they&#039;d be trying to displace the progeny of Non-FLDS Whites who are far inferior to you.

I agree that if a White Subpopulation has lower intelligence than the average White, and at the same time an extremely high fertility, this could create serious dysgenic pressures down the road.

As you have pointed out, the historically unusual level of per capita prosperity we currently enjoy will not last, and therefore intensified resource competition even within the White Race is inevitable.

As a result of this, a Tribe of Stupid Whites with tons of Children could use their numbers to push around members of Higher IQ White Groups, causing some White Groups with higher IQs to go extinct.

So let&#039;s say a group of Whites with average IQs of 90 have 100,000 extra children, but it comes at the expense of a 100,000 average Whites having one child each never born because of brutal resource competition.

If the average White has an IQ of 100, that would be a very dysgenic thing, as it would lead to there being less high IQ people in the White Population.

The problem, though, is that you fail to consider the complete lack of evidence that FLDS members are below the White average in intelligence, and ignore the substantial evidence that the average FLDS child is higher IQ than the children of the average American White.

For example, from the school years from 1997-2000 children who attended the then FLDS dominated public school in Colorado City, Arizona, were given Stanford 9 Standardized Achievement Tests from Grade 2 through 11.

While at earlier ages, where IQ is far less heritable, they scored merely average or below, by the 11th Grade in the average year they were at the 57th Percentile of Reading, the 53rd Percentile of Language, and the 61st Percentile of Mathematics.

A critical thing to understand about these results is that neither the FLDS children nor their parents were in any way selected for traits differing from the FLDS average.

And making this result even more remarkable is that the overall Arizona 11th Grade Percentiles were 44th for Reading, 42nd for Language, and 52nd for Mathematics; which makes it clear that the FLDS Children scored even higher on the test to make up for the lower scores of the 20% of students at the school who were Non-FLDS.

So if at some point 100,000 Non-FLDS Whites have to have one child die each so that FLDS members can have 100,000 extra children, it would be highly eugenic and actually something to be applauded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool.&#8221;</p>
<p>eurodele,</p>
<p>They&#8217;d be trying to do that no more than they&#8217;d be trying to displace the progeny of Non-FLDS Whites who are far inferior to you.</p>
<p>I agree that if a White Subpopulation has lower intelligence than the average White, and at the same time an extremely high fertility, this could create serious dysgenic pressures down the road.</p>
<p>As you have pointed out, the historically unusual level of per capita prosperity we currently enjoy will not last, and therefore intensified resource competition even within the White Race is inevitable.</p>
<p>As a result of this, a Tribe of Stupid Whites with tons of Children could use their numbers to push around members of Higher IQ White Groups, causing some White Groups with higher IQs to go extinct.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s say a group of Whites with average IQs of 90 have 100,000 extra children, but it comes at the expense of a 100,000 average Whites having one child each never born because of brutal resource competition.</p>
<p>If the average White has an IQ of 100, that would be a very dysgenic thing, as it would lead to there being less high IQ people in the White Population.</p>
<p>The problem, though, is that you fail to consider the complete lack of evidence that FLDS members are below the White average in intelligence, and ignore the substantial evidence that the average FLDS child is higher IQ than the children of the average American White.</p>
<p>For example, from the school years from 1997-2000 children who attended the then FLDS dominated public school in Colorado City, Arizona, were given Stanford 9 Standardized Achievement Tests from Grade 2 through 11.</p>
<p>While at earlier ages, where IQ is far less heritable, they scored merely average or below, by the 11th Grade in the average year they were at the 57th Percentile of Reading, the 53rd Percentile of Language, and the 61st Percentile of Mathematics.</p>
<p>A critical thing to understand about these results is that neither the FLDS children nor their parents were in any way selected for traits differing from the FLDS average.</p>
<p>And making this result even more remarkable is that the overall Arizona 11th Grade Percentiles were 44th for Reading, 42nd for Language, and 52nd for Mathematics; which makes it clear that the FLDS Children scored even higher on the test to make up for the lower scores of the 20% of students at the school who were Non-FLDS.</p>
<p>So if at some point 100,000 Non-FLDS Whites have to have one child die each so that FLDS members can have 100,000 extra children, it would be highly eugenic and actually something to be applauded.</p>
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		<title>By: eurodele</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-5057</link>
		<dc:creator>eurodele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link doesn&#039;t work (from here) at the present time, Andrew, so I haven&#039;t yet managed to view your &quot;high-IQ&quot; polygamist or his kids. But when I do, will I see anything to change my opinion? 

I doubt it. As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool. Indeed, if they are at all like you - that is, if they are high-r breeders who imagine that the resource pool is theirs to squander as they like on their own unexceptional progeny - then they may even succeed in doing so. (And people wonder why the superintelligent often don&#039;t bother to breed!)

You have, after all, admitted that &quot;it takes huge quantities of resources to support&quot; the kids of such people. Hasn&#039;t it occurred to you that the offspring of the superintelligent may have better things to do with their lives than fight with the kids of less intelligent people over a rapidly dwindling pie? Obviously, there&#039;s nothing the matter with a little generosity and a healthy dose of competition, but would you by any chance be huffing airplane glue?

That&#039;s what people with your breeding preferences never seem to get: you can&#039;t go too far in your efforts to displace people of other races from the local resource and gene pools without displacing superior members of your own race from the local resource and gene pools in the bargain, unless explicit measures are taken to stop this from happening.

By the way, I didn&#039;t realize that you were implementing a &quot;high IQ breeding strategy&quot; of your very own. Typically, one would expect such a strategy to involve the close participation of known high-IQ people, preferably the most extreme specimens available.

Just for the sake of curiosity, would you mind explaining to us the exact nature of your strategy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link doesn&#8217;t work (from here) at the present time, Andrew, so I haven&#8217;t yet managed to view your &#8220;high-IQ&#8221; polygamist or his kids. But when I do, will I see anything to change my opinion? </p>
<p>I doubt it. As a matter of fact, should I ever have children, your prolific Mormon and his 120 kids will be trying with all their might to displace my progeny from the resource pool, which comes very close to displacing them from the gene pool. Indeed, if they are at all like you &#8211; that is, if they are high-r breeders who imagine that the resource pool is theirs to squander as they like on their own unexceptional progeny &#8211; then they may even succeed in doing so. (And people wonder why the superintelligent often don&#8217;t bother to breed!)</p>
<p>You have, after all, admitted that &#8220;it takes huge quantities of resources to support&#8221; the kids of such people. Hasn&#8217;t it occurred to you that the offspring of the superintelligent may have better things to do with their lives than fight with the kids of less intelligent people over a rapidly dwindling pie? Obviously, there&#8217;s nothing the matter with a little generosity and a healthy dose of competition, but would you by any chance be huffing airplane glue?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what people with your breeding preferences never seem to get: you can&#8217;t go too far in your efforts to displace people of other races from the local resource and gene pools without displacing superior members of your own race from the local resource and gene pools in the bargain, unless explicit measures are taken to stop this from happening.</p>
<p>By the way, I didn&#8217;t realize that you were implementing a &#8220;high IQ breeding strategy&#8221; of your very own. Typically, one would expect such a strategy to involve the close participation of known high-IQ people, preferably the most extreme specimens available.</p>
<p>Just for the sake of curiosity, would you mind explaining to us the exact nature of your strategy?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-5055</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eurodele,
Okay, for now, lets assume that there is a very serious crisis on the horizon.  For the purpose of this discussion, lets even concede there is an overpopulation problem and a problem with all manner of resources running out soon.  Add that to the problem of White displacement and political dominance by an alien elite, and things look grim for our race in the future.

What exactly do you suggest is the optimal strategy to address the problem for a WN?  That really gets to the heart of what I am concerned about.  

&quot;I saw an interesting move last night. It’s called “The Road”.&quot; 

I did see the road, and enjoyed it, I especially liked the way they showed the White father acting in a manly, traditional way, protecting his family, sacrificing himself when needed to ensure his son&#039;s survival.  It was awesome stuff.  You dont see this in movies very often, where Whitey is usually portrayed as a weak, selfish nincompoop who is deserving only of scorn.

&quot;My point in bringing up the “The Road”, or for that matter any other semi-realistic post-Apocalyptic story, is that there are many possible futures from which high-r breeding cannot save us.&quot;

There have certainly been major extinction events in the past that would create a situation like &quot;The Road&quot;, asteroid collisions being just some of them.  However, for the next few centuries at least, such an event is probably unlikely.  The most likely scenario is that current anti-White trends continue (immigration, displacement, political disempowerment, etc.)  I am no expert at probability, but I would say that this scenario has a 90%+ chance of occurrence, while &quot;The Road&quot; or a similar apocalyptic scenario has less than a 2% chance.  Therefore, unless you expect us to be really unlucky, the most logical thing to do is plan for the displacement scenario.

In this case, or just about any other scenario, why wouldnt having a large group of well-informed geniuses be of great benefit to the situation?  Lets assume that you are in fact a brainiac.  If I could take a magic wand and make 100 clones of you at age 20, who had all been well educated in the problems facing Whites, wouldnt that be a very helpful thing to do?  I understand that just having high quality &quot;seed&quot; does not ensure geniuses, and the talents of children would be watered down by having 110-120 IQ moms.  However, Reginald&#039;s information suggests that such children would still be very smart. 

&quot;The only way we can guaranty our own survival is to do something NOW to retake what we rightfully own.&quot;

This is exactly what Dr. Pierce, Revilo Oliver and a whole host of other people thought, back in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.  But here we are many decades later, and Whites arent gone yet.  Even by 2050, Whites still have a population of 200M in the US, with an even bigger population elsewhere in the world.  I agree with you wholeheartedly that we should do something now, but I would suggest that having lots of high-IQ children (who are well-educated and raised well) would be the most effective strategy.  One our biggest weaknesses, possibly THE biggest, is the lack of intelligent, talented leaders.  Those are just not easy to come by, and having a nice big group of them arise in the future would be a game-changer.

&quot;So, if you can, try to understand that your high-r breeding is not a legitimate substitute for spending more of your time, money, and energy doing what needs to be done in the short term.&quot;

What do you think would be more effective than my high-IQ breeding strategy?  Please explain why having as many high-IQ individuals in the future as possible would not be hugely advantageous.

&quot;squandering our collective energy on low-IQ, or even average-IQ, quantitative breeding activities stands a very good chance of being a losing strategy at this point in the game.&quot;

I think ideally, we would want to have as many Whites as can be supported on our resources, who have the highest genetic quality possible.

&quot;The wizened, cowboy-hatted Mormon “stud” in your picture would not survive, and his low-IQ descendants would stand a very good chance of being roasted on spits and consumed by the very lowest kind of humanity.&quot;

You are assuming that he and his progeny are low-IQ.  As contrary evidence, it surely cannot be easy to handle so many wives and children, especially when it takes huge quantities of resources to support them.  This suggests that our stud is much more capable than average, I just do not see how a dummy could accomplish what he did.  Since IQ is largely inheritable, it stands to reason that his children would have similar attributes.  Check out this video of a Mormon guy with 20 wives and 120 children:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Videos/07797_00

If you look at the guy, or listen to his children speaking, do you get the sense that they are mentally deficient?  They seem perfectly normal to me (and I suspect that a guy that can support so many wives and children has got to be pretty sharp.  Even Sir Isaac Newton would have been hard-pressed to do the same).  Your own stone-age ancestors were no doubt polygamists producing plentiful pods of precocious punks just like this guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eurodele,<br />
Okay, for now, lets assume that there is a very serious crisis on the horizon.  For the purpose of this discussion, lets even concede there is an overpopulation problem and a problem with all manner of resources running out soon.  Add that to the problem of White displacement and political dominance by an alien elite, and things look grim for our race in the future.</p>
<p>What exactly do you suggest is the optimal strategy to address the problem for a WN?  That really gets to the heart of what I am concerned about.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I saw an interesting move last night. It’s called “The Road”.&#8221; </p>
<p>I did see the road, and enjoyed it, I especially liked the way they showed the White father acting in a manly, traditional way, protecting his family, sacrificing himself when needed to ensure his son&#8217;s survival.  It was awesome stuff.  You dont see this in movies very often, where Whitey is usually portrayed as a weak, selfish nincompoop who is deserving only of scorn.</p>
<p>&#8220;My point in bringing up the “The Road”, or for that matter any other semi-realistic post-Apocalyptic story, is that there are many possible futures from which high-r breeding cannot save us.&#8221;</p>
<p>There have certainly been major extinction events in the past that would create a situation like &#8220;The Road&#8221;, asteroid collisions being just some of them.  However, for the next few centuries at least, such an event is probably unlikely.  The most likely scenario is that current anti-White trends continue (immigration, displacement, political disempowerment, etc.)  I am no expert at probability, but I would say that this scenario has a 90%+ chance of occurrence, while &#8220;The Road&#8221; or a similar apocalyptic scenario has less than a 2% chance.  Therefore, unless you expect us to be really unlucky, the most logical thing to do is plan for the displacement scenario.</p>
<p>In this case, or just about any other scenario, why wouldnt having a large group of well-informed geniuses be of great benefit to the situation?  Lets assume that you are in fact a brainiac.  If I could take a magic wand and make 100 clones of you at age 20, who had all been well educated in the problems facing Whites, wouldnt that be a very helpful thing to do?  I understand that just having high quality &#8220;seed&#8221; does not ensure geniuses, and the talents of children would be watered down by having 110-120 IQ moms.  However, Reginald&#8217;s information suggests that such children would still be very smart. </p>
<p>&#8220;The only way we can guaranty our own survival is to do something NOW to retake what we rightfully own.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly what Dr. Pierce, Revilo Oliver and a whole host of other people thought, back in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s.  But here we are many decades later, and Whites arent gone yet.  Even by 2050, Whites still have a population of 200M in the US, with an even bigger population elsewhere in the world.  I agree with you wholeheartedly that we should do something now, but I would suggest that having lots of high-IQ children (who are well-educated and raised well) would be the most effective strategy.  One our biggest weaknesses, possibly THE biggest, is the lack of intelligent, talented leaders.  Those are just not easy to come by, and having a nice big group of them arise in the future would be a game-changer.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, if you can, try to understand that your high-r breeding is not a legitimate substitute for spending more of your time, money, and energy doing what needs to be done in the short term.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you think would be more effective than my high-IQ breeding strategy?  Please explain why having as many high-IQ individuals in the future as possible would not be hugely advantageous.</p>
<p>&#8220;squandering our collective energy on low-IQ, or even average-IQ, quantitative breeding activities stands a very good chance of being a losing strategy at this point in the game.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think ideally, we would want to have as many Whites as can be supported on our resources, who have the highest genetic quality possible.</p>
<p>&#8220;The wizened, cowboy-hatted Mormon “stud” in your picture would not survive, and his low-IQ descendants would stand a very good chance of being roasted on spits and consumed by the very lowest kind of humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are assuming that he and his progeny are low-IQ.  As contrary evidence, it surely cannot be easy to handle so many wives and children, especially when it takes huge quantities of resources to support them.  This suggests that our stud is much more capable than average, I just do not see how a dummy could accomplish what he did.  Since IQ is largely inheritable, it stands to reason that his children would have similar attributes.  Check out this video of a Mormon guy with 20 wives and 120 children:<br />
<a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Videos/07797_00" rel="nofollow">http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/4292/Overview#tab-Videos/07797_00</a></p>
<p>If you look at the guy, or listen to his children speaking, do you get the sense that they are mentally deficient?  They seem perfectly normal to me (and I suspect that a guy that can support so many wives and children has got to be pretty sharp.  Even Sir Isaac Newton would have been hard-pressed to do the same).  Your own stone-age ancestors were no doubt polygamists producing plentiful pods of precocious punks just like this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-5051</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To be frank, I wouldn’t even consider a donor database of which the make-or-break criteria include education (irrelevant to genetic fitness), income (again irrelevant), and work history.&quot;

eurodele,

It&#039;s more that you have to give the information before you can join, once you get approved (and there&#039;s no minimum income or education level required to be approved) it&#039;s up to the female subscribers if they want to care about what you put in the slots, and what they consider desirable.

&quot;Let me explain. Part of the problem with human evolution at this point is that we have distanced ourselves from nature, and cheated natural selection, by replacing genetic fitness with artificial fitness criteria which have come to depend, for example, on one’s psychological tolerance for Jewish indoctrination.&quot;

I see what you are saying here, and considering my low tolerance for the education system I&#039;m hardly in much of a position to disagree with you.

Still, you seem to (rightfully I think) place a lot of stock in IQ.

And the thing is that years of education has been found to have a substantial correlation with IQ, with many studies finding the correlation to be 40% or more:

http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&amp;id=1984-30440-001&amp;CFID=6646747&amp;CFTOKEN=95647812

So while there may be negative traits relating to subservience selected for if a woman prefers a more educated man, there&#039;s also a very important positive trait that&#039;s being selected for as well.

Perhaps one would even say the most important single positive trait.

I do realize that with really extreme examples like you and Bill Gates, and if I recall correctly Bobby Fisher, the relationship can break down in an extreme way that you wouldn&#039;t necessarily expect based on the strength of the general pattern.

&quot;Whites who are highly intolerant of Jewish indoctrination have greatly reduced chances of success in in academia, and this is highly likely to affect their income and work history. For example, my present farming income is much lower than it would be if I could still stomach working for the miscreants now in charge of American society.&quot;

I understand.

Actually, there&#039;s one donation site I know of that doesn&#039;t prompt for income:

http://www.free-sperm-donations.com/register.htm

With this site the females involved have to pay a fee, though it&#039;s free for the men.

The prompts are:

Country
State
Age Group
Height 
Natural Hair Color
Ethnicity 
Eye Color (from what I hear blue eyed men are preferred)
Blood Type
Relevant Health History
Marital Status
Highest Level of Education 

Note that options for this question are: School of Life, High School, A Levels, Work Related Qualifications, NVQ, Graduate Degree, Post-Graduate Certificate, Post-Graduate Diploma, Masters Degree, PhD, Other (specify in comments).

Current Job or Career
Reasons for Joining
Type of Donor

Note that options for this question are: Known (child can request info at 18), Anonymous (child not given any info), Undecided
 
Any Involvement After Conception?
Hobbies and Interests
Personality Traits
Additional Comments

So you could certainly put your remarkable IQ in there, or even just allude to having an extremely high IQ on the idea that more information could be provided further along in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To be frank, I wouldn’t even consider a donor database of which the make-or-break criteria include education (irrelevant to genetic fitness), income (again irrelevant), and work history.&#8221;</p>
<p>eurodele,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more that you have to give the information before you can join, once you get approved (and there&#8217;s no minimum income or education level required to be approved) it&#8217;s up to the female subscribers if they want to care about what you put in the slots, and what they consider desirable.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me explain. Part of the problem with human evolution at this point is that we have distanced ourselves from nature, and cheated natural selection, by replacing genetic fitness with artificial fitness criteria which have come to depend, for example, on one’s psychological tolerance for Jewish indoctrination.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see what you are saying here, and considering my low tolerance for the education system I&#8217;m hardly in much of a position to disagree with you.</p>
<p>Still, you seem to (rightfully I think) place a lot of stock in IQ.</p>
<p>And the thing is that years of education has been found to have a substantial correlation with IQ, with many studies finding the correlation to be 40% or more:</p>
<p><a href="http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&amp;id=1984-30440-001&amp;CFID=6646747&amp;CFTOKEN=95647812" rel="nofollow">http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&amp;id=1984-30440-001&amp;CFID=6646747&amp;CFTOKEN=95647812</a></p>
<p>So while there may be negative traits relating to subservience selected for if a woman prefers a more educated man, there&#8217;s also a very important positive trait that&#8217;s being selected for as well.</p>
<p>Perhaps one would even say the most important single positive trait.</p>
<p>I do realize that with really extreme examples like you and Bill Gates, and if I recall correctly Bobby Fisher, the relationship can break down in an extreme way that you wouldn&#8217;t necessarily expect based on the strength of the general pattern.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whites who are highly intolerant of Jewish indoctrination have greatly reduced chances of success in in academia, and this is highly likely to affect their income and work history. For example, my present farming income is much lower than it would be if I could still stomach working for the miscreants now in charge of American society.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand.</p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s one donation site I know of that doesn&#8217;t prompt for income:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.free-sperm-donations.com/register.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.free-sperm-donations.com/register.htm</a></p>
<p>With this site the females involved have to pay a fee, though it&#8217;s free for the men.</p>
<p>The prompts are:</p>
<p>Country<br />
State<br />
Age Group<br />
Height<br />
Natural Hair Color<br />
Ethnicity<br />
Eye Color (from what I hear blue eyed men are preferred)<br />
Blood Type<br />
Relevant Health History<br />
Marital Status<br />
Highest Level of Education </p>
<p>Note that options for this question are: School of Life, High School, A Levels, Work Related Qualifications, NVQ, Graduate Degree, Post-Graduate Certificate, Post-Graduate Diploma, Masters Degree, PhD, Other (specify in comments).</p>
<p>Current Job or Career<br />
Reasons for Joining<br />
Type of Donor</p>
<p>Note that options for this question are: Known (child can request info at 18), Anonymous (child not given any info), Undecided</p>
<p>Any Involvement After Conception?<br />
Hobbies and Interests<br />
Personality Traits<br />
Additional Comments</p>
<p>So you could certainly put your remarkable IQ in there, or even just allude to having an extremely high IQ on the idea that more information could be provided further along in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: eurodele</title>
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		<dc:creator>eurodele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw an interesting move last night. It&#039;s called &quot;The Road&quot;. 

After an unnamed catastrophe that reduces the earth to a cool, dim wasteland (perhaps the intended inference is an asteroid strike whose destructive magnitude rivals the one that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs), the few surviving remnants of surface-dwelling humanity - as opposed to Jewish humanity in CoG facilities, an unspoken but intelligent background assumption - are reduced to either cannibalism, or to being hunted for food by roving bands of cannibals. Bearing out the predictions of etymology, almost all of the survivors seem to be White survivalists of the kind now reputed to belong to militias and other groups of potential anti-ZOG insurgents. (Assumably, most of the Africans and Hispanics have already eaten each other.) Life for the handful of White non-cannibals is absolutely intolerable and ostensibly futile.

A population crash and global race war for dwindling resources could have much the same effect. (Extreme overpopulation and competition for the basic necessities of life would almost certainly result in complete, intensely violent racial polarization.) The wizened, cowboy-hatted Mormon &quot;stud&quot; in your picture would not survive, and his low-IQ descendants would stand a very good chance of being roasted on spits and consumed by the very lowest kind of humanity. 

Admittedly, this outcome would conduce to the survival of animalistic redneck cannibals, thus possibly allowing the short-term survival of a new form of (White) humankind limited to the descendants of, you guessed it, animalistic redneck cannibals. But try watching the movie, and then ask yourself what the White race would really be worth by the light of its own moral propensities if this scenario were to occur.

Now, such a scenario is only one possible future that we face. (While some might see it as no possibility at all, such a blanket denial can be safely dismissed on its face.) However, it is a future that can only become more likely if the White genome becomes even more saturated with low-intelligence high-r breeders. I suggest that you watch the movie, if only to get a glimpse of the various kinds of future that could easily unfold for us if we don&#039;t start getting a few lucky breaks.

Is the White race worthy of survival? Once again, we come back to your &quot;deservingness&quot; criterion, and to my observation that nonsurvival moots ethics. Nevertheless, I submit to you that our feet are being held to the fire right now, in the sense that if we do nothing to regain political ascendancy and command of our own national resources, we will be completely disarmed in the face of any global natural disaster. 

My point in bringing up the &quot;The Road&quot;, or for that matter any other semi-realistic post-Apocalyptic story, is that there are many possible futures from which high-r breeding cannot save us. The only way we can guaranty our own survival is to do something NOW to retake what we rightfully own. So, if you can, try to understand that your high-r breeding is not a legitimate substitute for spending more of your time, money, and energy doing what needs to be done in the short term. 

Remember, any race can breed, and the hard, cold mathematics of reproduction assures us that Whites have been and will continue to be numerically outbred by Blacks, Mestizos and Asians. While we do need to create new people - no doubt about that - squandering our collective energy on low-IQ, or even average-IQ, quantitative breeding activities stands a very good chance of being a losing strategy at this point in the game.

Just a little food for thought. Take it easy, papa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw an interesting move last night. It&#8217;s called &#8220;The Road&#8221;. </p>
<p>After an unnamed catastrophe that reduces the earth to a cool, dim wasteland (perhaps the intended inference is an asteroid strike whose destructive magnitude rivals the one that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs), the few surviving remnants of surface-dwelling humanity &#8211; as opposed to Jewish humanity in CoG facilities, an unspoken but intelligent background assumption &#8211; are reduced to either cannibalism, or to being hunted for food by roving bands of cannibals. Bearing out the predictions of etymology, almost all of the survivors seem to be White survivalists of the kind now reputed to belong to militias and other groups of potential anti-ZOG insurgents. (Assumably, most of the Africans and Hispanics have already eaten each other.) Life for the handful of White non-cannibals is absolutely intolerable and ostensibly futile.</p>
<p>A population crash and global race war for dwindling resources could have much the same effect. (Extreme overpopulation and competition for the basic necessities of life would almost certainly result in complete, intensely violent racial polarization.) The wizened, cowboy-hatted Mormon &#8220;stud&#8221; in your picture would not survive, and his low-IQ descendants would stand a very good chance of being roasted on spits and consumed by the very lowest kind of humanity. </p>
<p>Admittedly, this outcome would conduce to the survival of animalistic redneck cannibals, thus possibly allowing the short-term survival of a new form of (White) humankind limited to the descendants of, you guessed it, animalistic redneck cannibals. But try watching the movie, and then ask yourself what the White race would really be worth by the light of its own moral propensities if this scenario were to occur.</p>
<p>Now, such a scenario is only one possible future that we face. (While some might see it as no possibility at all, such a blanket denial can be safely dismissed on its face.) However, it is a future that can only become more likely if the White genome becomes even more saturated with low-intelligence high-r breeders. I suggest that you watch the movie, if only to get a glimpse of the various kinds of future that could easily unfold for us if we don&#8217;t start getting a few lucky breaks.</p>
<p>Is the White race worthy of survival? Once again, we come back to your &#8220;deservingness&#8221; criterion, and to my observation that nonsurvival moots ethics. Nevertheless, I submit to you that our feet are being held to the fire right now, in the sense that if we do nothing to regain political ascendancy and command of our own national resources, we will be completely disarmed in the face of any global natural disaster. </p>
<p>My point in bringing up the &#8220;The Road&#8221;, or for that matter any other semi-realistic post-Apocalyptic story, is that there are many possible futures from which high-r breeding cannot save us. The only way we can guaranty our own survival is to do something NOW to retake what we rightfully own. So, if you can, try to understand that your high-r breeding is not a legitimate substitute for spending more of your time, money, and energy doing what needs to be done in the short term. </p>
<p>Remember, any race can breed, and the hard, cold mathematics of reproduction assures us that Whites have been and will continue to be numerically outbred by Blacks, Mestizos and Asians. While we do need to create new people &#8211; no doubt about that &#8211; squandering our collective energy on low-IQ, or even average-IQ, quantitative breeding activities stands a very good chance of being a losing strategy at this point in the game.</p>
<p>Just a little food for thought. Take it easy, papa.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Andrew, you’re asking people to take your word for it that solar cell technology offers a viable solution to global energy (and related agricultural) problems, whereas nothing of the kind is yet the case.&quot;

Its true that all of this is still theoretical.  However, we do have functioning solar farms.  European nations are planning to build a sahara desert project:
http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/06/22/worlds-largest-solar-project-sahara-desert/
There are of course challenges with sandstorms and politics, as well as major capital costs, but the project seems doable.  Whether or not it will ever be completed is of course indeterminable.  In North America, the Sonoran desert (US Southwest and Northern Mexico) has a similar line of latitude as the Sahara, and would perhaps offer a smiliar potential (especially the undeveloped Mexican desert areas).  As far as transmission of power goes, Wikipedia states that, &quot;Long-distance transmission of electricity (thousands of kilometers) is cheap and efficient, with costs of US$0.005–0.02/kWh (compared to annual averaged large producer costs of US$0.01–0.025/kWh&quot;, and the longest powerline in existence is 1000 miles long (in the Congo). 

&quot;Modern nuclear power plants (1) are inherently unsafe (think Chernobyl and nuclear terrorism); (2) require enriched uranium, of which the global supply is limited and which takes a lot of time and energy to mine and refine; (3) produce dirty and dangerous waste for which no satisfactory disposal technology has ever been devised. &quot;

Its true that there are problems with nuclear power, but technology has improved substantially since the first plants were built.  They are much safer (Chernobyl, built with old Soviet technology and engineering is probably not a fair comparison to modern reactors).  There are costs associated with mining Uranium, but it is expected that there is enough of this fuel source to last mankind for 47,000 years (http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Uranium_depletion).  This implies that there is at least the potential to produce a lot of power this way, though it would probably be more costly than what the US is doing now.  In France, where Uranium is re-processed, a family of four yields on average an amount of high-level nuclear waste the size of a cigarette lighter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/french.html).  There is no perfect solution for storage, but underground mountain sites seem to be a reasonable method.  

At least theoretically, there is enough power to run food manufactories (food is currently grown indoors using UV lights and so forth) and provide for the needs of increased population.  Although this would work theoretically, obviously I cannot prove that it would all work in practice as no one has put together a large enough system to date.    

&quot; Then a guy like you comes along, gets himself into an argument, furiously searches the Net for anything to support his case, finds the article, fails to notice any mention whatsoever of other problems, and declares the situation resolved.&quot;

All I can say is that in my mind (and I am just a layman), it seems reasonable that the US could comfortably support a much larger population.  You have pointed out potential problems, and there would certainly be many serious challenges.  However, when looking at the success of other nations, and having a lot of faith in American ingenuity, it seems doable to me.  Note that there are also serious geopolitical risks involved with not having a large population of Whites.  

&quot;But sadly, we now learn that when it comes right down to it, your appreciation is limited to women with big, juicy racks…and just when White Womankind was about to bestow on you its coveted Catch of the Year award!&quot;

In my experience, most women do not really want a guy who is &quot;sensitive&quot;.  They want someone who is in charge and can take care of them.  I think that relationships work best when the male undertakes his traditional role as the head of the family, the decision-maker and the patriarch.  In my view, women are generally a lot happier in such a relationship, and they also like being admired for their body parts.  

&quot; I’ve maxed out the WAIS, and not that long ago.&quot;

After looking this up, that would equate to a Stanford-Binet IQ of 196, is that right?  If so, that’s pretty high, there must be just a few people in the US with that score.

&quot;this poor Orca victim’s possible reproductive situation, for which she was being heartlessly criticized post mortem.&quot;

She was probably a very caring and sweet lady, and would probably have made a great mom.

&quot;If the subject of IQ makes you uncomfortable, we don’t need to dwell on it here.&quot;

Im not sure what my IQ is, but of course its blatantly obvious that I must be a super-duper smart guy, so I am very comfortable talking about the subject.  I do understand that most truly great and accomplished individuals throughout history have had very high IQs (this is an important quality, though such things as drive, ambition, vision, morality, character, good sense, etc. are also necessary to some extent).  Actually, I have designed a plan that I seriously do intend to implement in the future.  The idea is that I assemble a group of families together.  Each family would help support one or more single ladies, or be married to them polygamously.  Each of these ladies would bear several children through artificial insemination with very high quality &quot;seed&quot;.  All of the children would be homeschooled, and raised to become the leaders of a movement to help lead the awakening of Whites.  In 20-30 years time, there would be a large number of very intelligent, capable, well-trained individuals arriving on the scene exactly when they are needed the most (near when Whites are reaching minority status).  I think that raising children now is the most effective thing that any White Nationalist can do.  In fact, if Dr. Pierce had concentrated his efforts on this, he would have had a much greater impact on the movement.

Here is a picture of a polygamist with 49 children and 239 grand-children:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/02/polygamists/anderson-text
The guy with the cowboy hat is truly a stud, and an example for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Andrew, you’re asking people to take your word for it that solar cell technology offers a viable solution to global energy (and related agricultural) problems, whereas nothing of the kind is yet the case.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its true that all of this is still theoretical.  However, we do have functioning solar farms.  European nations are planning to build a sahara desert project:<br />
<a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/06/22/worlds-largest-solar-project-sahara-desert/" rel="nofollow">http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/06/22/worlds-largest-solar-project-sahara-desert/</a><br />
There are of course challenges with sandstorms and politics, as well as major capital costs, but the project seems doable.  Whether or not it will ever be completed is of course indeterminable.  In North America, the Sonoran desert (US Southwest and Northern Mexico) has a similar line of latitude as the Sahara, and would perhaps offer a smiliar potential (especially the undeveloped Mexican desert areas).  As far as transmission of power goes, Wikipedia states that, &#8220;Long-distance transmission of electricity (thousands of kilometers) is cheap and efficient, with costs of US$0.005–0.02/kWh (compared to annual averaged large producer costs of US$0.01–0.025/kWh&#8221;, and the longest powerline in existence is 1000 miles long (in the Congo). </p>
<p>&#8220;Modern nuclear power plants (1) are inherently unsafe (think Chernobyl and nuclear terrorism); (2) require enriched uranium, of which the global supply is limited and which takes a lot of time and energy to mine and refine; (3) produce dirty and dangerous waste for which no satisfactory disposal technology has ever been devised. &#8221;</p>
<p>Its true that there are problems with nuclear power, but technology has improved substantially since the first plants were built.  They are much safer (Chernobyl, built with old Soviet technology and engineering is probably not a fair comparison to modern reactors).  There are costs associated with mining Uranium, but it is expected that there is enough of this fuel source to last mankind for 47,000 years (<a href="http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Uranium_depletion)" rel="nofollow">http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Uranium_depletion)</a>.  This implies that there is at least the potential to produce a lot of power this way, though it would probably be more costly than what the US is doing now.  In France, where Uranium is re-processed, a family of four yields on average an amount of high-level nuclear waste the size of a cigarette lighter (<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/french.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/french.html)</a>.  There is no perfect solution for storage, but underground mountain sites seem to be a reasonable method.  </p>
<p>At least theoretically, there is enough power to run food manufactories (food is currently grown indoors using UV lights and so forth) and provide for the needs of increased population.  Although this would work theoretically, obviously I cannot prove that it would all work in practice as no one has put together a large enough system to date.    </p>
<p>&#8221; Then a guy like you comes along, gets himself into an argument, furiously searches the Net for anything to support his case, finds the article, fails to notice any mention whatsoever of other problems, and declares the situation resolved.&#8221;</p>
<p>All I can say is that in my mind (and I am just a layman), it seems reasonable that the US could comfortably support a much larger population.  You have pointed out potential problems, and there would certainly be many serious challenges.  However, when looking at the success of other nations, and having a lot of faith in American ingenuity, it seems doable to me.  Note that there are also serious geopolitical risks involved with not having a large population of Whites.  </p>
<p>&#8220;But sadly, we now learn that when it comes right down to it, your appreciation is limited to women with big, juicy racks…and just when White Womankind was about to bestow on you its coveted Catch of the Year award!&#8221;</p>
<p>In my experience, most women do not really want a guy who is &#8220;sensitive&#8221;.  They want someone who is in charge and can take care of them.  I think that relationships work best when the male undertakes his traditional role as the head of the family, the decision-maker and the patriarch.  In my view, women are generally a lot happier in such a relationship, and they also like being admired for their body parts.  </p>
<p>&#8221; I’ve maxed out the WAIS, and not that long ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>After looking this up, that would equate to a Stanford-Binet IQ of 196, is that right?  If so, that’s pretty high, there must be just a few people in the US with that score.</p>
<p>&#8220;this poor Orca victim’s possible reproductive situation, for which she was being heartlessly criticized post mortem.&#8221;</p>
<p>She was probably a very caring and sweet lady, and would probably have made a great mom.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the subject of IQ makes you uncomfortable, we don’t need to dwell on it here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Im not sure what my IQ is, but of course its blatantly obvious that I must be a super-duper smart guy, so I am very comfortable talking about the subject.  I do understand that most truly great and accomplished individuals throughout history have had very high IQs (this is an important quality, though such things as drive, ambition, vision, morality, character, good sense, etc. are also necessary to some extent).  Actually, I have designed a plan that I seriously do intend to implement in the future.  The idea is that I assemble a group of families together.  Each family would help support one or more single ladies, or be married to them polygamously.  Each of these ladies would bear several children through artificial insemination with very high quality &#8220;seed&#8221;.  All of the children would be homeschooled, and raised to become the leaders of a movement to help lead the awakening of Whites.  In 20-30 years time, there would be a large number of very intelligent, capable, well-trained individuals arriving on the scene exactly when they are needed the most (near when Whites are reaching minority status).  I think that raising children now is the most effective thing that any White Nationalist can do.  In fact, if Dr. Pierce had concentrated his efforts on this, he would have had a much greater impact on the movement.</p>
<p>Here is a picture of a polygamist with 49 children and 239 grand-children:<br />
<a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/02/polygamists/anderson-text" rel="nofollow">http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/02/polygamists/anderson-text</a><br />
The guy with the cowboy hat is truly a stud, and an example for us all.</p>
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		<title>By: eurodele</title>
		<link>http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=966&#038;cpage=2#comment-4995</link>
		<dc:creator>eurodele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, you&#039;re asking people to take your word for it that solar cell technology offers a viable solution to global energy (and related agricultural) problems, whereas nothing of the kind is yet the case. Even if equatorial deserts have energy-harvesting potential, the burden of proof is on you to show that it is enough to significantly increase the planetary carrying capacity.

For example, you might want to think about the maximum distance for efficient power transmission in the modern power grid - the equator is a long way from most of North America and Europe. (Beyond a certain distance, transmission costs mount rapidly.) And what happens down at the solar energy farm when the sun goes down? In particular, you might want to tell us how you plan to store electrical power on the global scale you seem to be imagining until such a time as it can be used (no, a convenient sandstorm doesn&#039;t always appear at dusk so that you can switch to windmills). These are rather more serious problems than you seem to think they are, and there are others where those came from. 

Modern nuclear power plants (1) are inherently unsafe (think Chernobyl and nuclear terrorism); (2) require enriched uranium, of which the global supply is limited and which takes a lot of time and energy to mine and refine; (3) produce dirty and dangerous waste for which no satisfactory disposal technology has ever been devised. Your wishful claim that nuclear waste can be safely and endlessly recycled inspires very little confidence, if only because it flies in the face of real-world experience and engineering. (Even if you think that nuclear power is tres chic because France and other European countries use fission reactors, the actual reason is that their backs are against the wall - they have no other way to make power, and would eliminate their fission reactors in a heartbeat if they could afford it.) 

Like I said, manufacturing nitrogen fertilizer from coal (among the several kinds which are necessary) may have promise, but that says nothing about the actual efficiency of the process. I suspect that this would be a very costly way to produce nitrogen fertilizer. Such costs are superficially monetary, but they always come down to...something else that you can&#039;t have if and when you need it, e.g., more energy from natural gas. Again, you slam one drawer of an overfull dresser, another pops out and whacks you in the schnozz. It doesn&#039;t take a genius to see that we&#039;ve just about run out of &quot;low hanging fruit&quot;, technologically speaking. Your whole notion that we can afford to rely on pie-in-the-sky technology is simply unrealistic.

Look, here&#039;s what happens. People complain about running out of things. Some reporter finds a scientist or an engineer and asks him what can be done. At first, the scientist is flummoxed. But the reporter is tapping his pencil on the desk and staring, so the engineer scratches his head and says, &quot;Well, that&#039;s a real tough situation. I suppose we might start thinking along the lines of X. But then again, in order to do X, we&#039;ll need to solve a whole bunch of other problems, like (blah, blah, blah).&quot; Then the reporter puts out his story, glossing over the &quot;other problems&quot; for impact. Then a guy like you comes along, gets himself into an argument, furiously searches the Net for anything to support his case, finds the article, fails to notice any mention whatsoever of other problems, and declares the situation resolved.

You&#039;ve got to learn not to do that.

I must say, Andrew, you really had me going when you passionately and empathically declared that &quot;the majority of women are of good quality, and there are millions of absolutely amazing ladies. I am surrounded every day with beautiful, caring, decent women everywhere I go!&quot; If you were to make your way down to the Lonely Hearts Club and say that to a group of spinsters, no doubt you&#039;d be in the breeding business in an even bigger way than you already are! 

But sadly, we now learn that when it comes right down to it, your appreciation is limited to women with big, juicy racks...and just when White Womankind was about to bestow on you its coveted Catch of the Year award!

There are a few high-end experimental IQ tests out there that purport to measure up to IQ 200 and beyond, but to a clinical psychologist, the last word on IQ is a standard test like the WAIS or RAM. If you can max out the WAIS, that&#039;s about as high as your IQ can be accurately measured (as opposed to &quot;estimated&quot;). I&#039;ve maxed out the WAIS, and not that long ago. Maybe Dr. MacDonald can do that too; it wouldn&#039;t surprise me.

However, that&#039;s beside the point in our current discussion. I only mentioned it apropos of my own perspective, as a White person, on this poor Orca victim&#039;s possible reproductive situation, for which she was being heartlessly criticized post mortem. If the subject of IQ makes you uncomfortable, we don&#039;t need to dwell on it here.

By the way, I&#039;m sure that your daughters, such as they may be, are smart and pretty. It&#039;s just that being called a &quot;dick&quot; doesn&#039;t exactly bring out the warmth and fuzziness in a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, you&#8217;re asking people to take your word for it that solar cell technology offers a viable solution to global energy (and related agricultural) problems, whereas nothing of the kind is yet the case. Even if equatorial deserts have energy-harvesting potential, the burden of proof is on you to show that it is enough to significantly increase the planetary carrying capacity.</p>
<p>For example, you might want to think about the maximum distance for efficient power transmission in the modern power grid &#8211; the equator is a long way from most of North America and Europe. (Beyond a certain distance, transmission costs mount rapidly.) And what happens down at the solar energy farm when the sun goes down? In particular, you might want to tell us how you plan to store electrical power on the global scale you seem to be imagining until such a time as it can be used (no, a convenient sandstorm doesn&#8217;t always appear at dusk so that you can switch to windmills). These are rather more serious problems than you seem to think they are, and there are others where those came from. </p>
<p>Modern nuclear power plants (1) are inherently unsafe (think Chernobyl and nuclear terrorism); (2) require enriched uranium, of which the global supply is limited and which takes a lot of time and energy to mine and refine; (3) produce dirty and dangerous waste for which no satisfactory disposal technology has ever been devised. Your wishful claim that nuclear waste can be safely and endlessly recycled inspires very little confidence, if only because it flies in the face of real-world experience and engineering. (Even if you think that nuclear power is tres chic because France and other European countries use fission reactors, the actual reason is that their backs are against the wall &#8211; they have no other way to make power, and would eliminate their fission reactors in a heartbeat if they could afford it.) </p>
<p>Like I said, manufacturing nitrogen fertilizer from coal (among the several kinds which are necessary) may have promise, but that says nothing about the actual efficiency of the process. I suspect that this would be a very costly way to produce nitrogen fertilizer. Such costs are superficially monetary, but they always come down to&#8230;something else that you can&#8217;t have if and when you need it, e.g., more energy from natural gas. Again, you slam one drawer of an overfull dresser, another pops out and whacks you in the schnozz. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to see that we&#8217;ve just about run out of &#8220;low hanging fruit&#8221;, technologically speaking. Your whole notion that we can afford to rely on pie-in-the-sky technology is simply unrealistic.</p>
<p>Look, here&#8217;s what happens. People complain about running out of things. Some reporter finds a scientist or an engineer and asks him what can be done. At first, the scientist is flummoxed. But the reporter is tapping his pencil on the desk and staring, so the engineer scratches his head and says, &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s a real tough situation. I suppose we might start thinking along the lines of X. But then again, in order to do X, we&#8217;ll need to solve a whole bunch of other problems, like (blah, blah, blah).&#8221; Then the reporter puts out his story, glossing over the &#8220;other problems&#8221; for impact. Then a guy like you comes along, gets himself into an argument, furiously searches the Net for anything to support his case, finds the article, fails to notice any mention whatsoever of other problems, and declares the situation resolved.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to learn not to do that.</p>
<p>I must say, Andrew, you really had me going when you passionately and empathically declared that &#8220;the majority of women are of good quality, and there are millions of absolutely amazing ladies. I am surrounded every day with beautiful, caring, decent women everywhere I go!&#8221; If you were to make your way down to the Lonely Hearts Club and say that to a group of spinsters, no doubt you&#8217;d be in the breeding business in an even bigger way than you already are! </p>
<p>But sadly, we now learn that when it comes right down to it, your appreciation is limited to women with big, juicy racks&#8230;and just when White Womankind was about to bestow on you its coveted Catch of the Year award!</p>
<p>There are a few high-end experimental IQ tests out there that purport to measure up to IQ 200 and beyond, but to a clinical psychologist, the last word on IQ is a standard test like the WAIS or RAM. If you can max out the WAIS, that&#8217;s about as high as your IQ can be accurately measured (as opposed to &#8220;estimated&#8221;). I&#8217;ve maxed out the WAIS, and not that long ago. Maybe Dr. MacDonald can do that too; it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s beside the point in our current discussion. I only mentioned it apropos of my own perspective, as a White person, on this poor Orca victim&#8217;s possible reproductive situation, for which she was being heartlessly criticized post mortem. If the subject of IQ makes you uncomfortable, we don&#8217;t need to dwell on it here.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m sure that your daughters, such as they may be, are smart and pretty. It&#8217;s just that being called a &#8220;dick&#8221; doesn&#8217;t exactly bring out the warmth and fuzziness in a person.</p>
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