Kevin MacDonald: Alexandr Solzhenitsyn’s important 200 Years Together has unfortunately not been translated into English. However, this process is now beginning with the posting of Chapter 20, “In the Camps of GULag.” As the title suggests, the chapter discusses the role of Jews in the Gulag. There are several important themes.
Despite apologetic claims by Jews, in fact Jews lived better in the camps. Obviously, it’s a touchy subject–just like everything else about the role of Jews in the Soviet Union.
If I wished to generalize and state that the life of Jews in camps was especially difficult, then I would be allowed to do so and wouldn’t be peppered with admonitions for unjust ethnic generalizations. But in the camps, where I was imprisoned, it was the other way around – the life of Jews, to the extent of possible generalization, was easier.
Jews also looked out for each other–yet another example of ethnic networking. Free Jews were often in positions of authority and they favored their own people. For example:
A Lett Ane Bernstein, one of my witnesses from Archipelago, thinks that he managed to survive in the camps only because in times of hardship he asked Jews for help and that the Jews, judging by his last name and nimble manners, mistook him for their tribesman – and always provided assistance. He says that in all his camps Jews always constituted the upper crust and that the most important free employees were also Jews (Shulman – head of special department, Greenberg – head of camp station, Kegels – chief mechanic of the factory), and, according to his recollections, they also preferred to select Jewish inmates to staff their units.
The few Jews who did share in the common labor did so out of principle–in order to avoid the stereotype of Jews who did not work. They were rewarded for their efforts by being rejected by “both sides” — indicating that everyone in the camps was aware of the ethnic divide–just as American prisons are organized along ethnic fault lines. But Solzhenitsyn optimistically describes Jews who countered the common tendencies: “I try not to overlook such examples, because all my hopes depend on them.”
Nevertheless, the resentment and hatred of the Jewish position in the camps was real. Solzhenitsyn realizes that all humans are prone to these tendencies, but he also understands that the ethnic divide exacerbated the “heavy resentment”:
When an alien emerges as a “master over life and death” – it further adds to the heavy resentment. It might appear strange – isn’t it all the same for a worthless negligable, crushed, and doomed camp dweller surviving at one of his dying stages – isn’t it all the same who exactly seized the power inside the camp and celebrates crow’s picnics over his trench-grave? As it turns out – it is not, it has etched into my memory inerasably.
The Russians did not show ethnic networking and accordingly suffered. Notice that he sees the mass murder involved in collectivization as a personal loss to his ethnic group.
Those who know about terrific Jewish mutual supportiveness (especially exacerbated by mass deaths of Jews under Hitler) would understand that a free Jewish boss simply could not indifferently watch Jewish prisoners flounder in starvation and die – and not to help. But I am unable to imagine a free Russian employee who would save and promote his fellow Russian prisoners to the privileged positions only because of their nationality, though we have lost 15 millions during collectivization: we are numerous, you can’t care about everyone, and nobody would even think about it.
The White Sea canal, completed in 1933, has gone down in history as a particularly brutal forced labor project in which thousands of workers died. Solzhenitsyn points out that all six of the people in charge of the project were Jews:
Genrikh Yagoda, head of NKVD.
Matvei Berman, head of GULag.
Semen Firin, commander of BelBaltlag (by that time he was already the commander of Dmitlag, where the story will later repeat itself).
Lazar Kogan, head of construction (later he will serve the same function at Volgocanal).
Jacob Rapoport, deputy head of construction.
Naftaly Frenkel, chief manager of the labor force of Belomorstroi (and the evil daemon of the whole Archipelago)
Solzhenitsyn’s observations fit well with the findings of historians like Yuri Slezkine showing that Jews were a political and cultural elite in the Soviet Union. Slezkine draws special attention to Jews as Stalin’s “willing executioners” supervising the greatest crimes of the 20th century.
Throughout the chapter Solzhenitsyn’s brutal honesty shines through. He bends over backward to give examples of Jews who behaved in ways contrary to the general tendencies he and others observed. Nevertheless, he recounts how he was often accused of anti-Semitism simply for recording his observations. It’s okay to depict an evil person as a Russian, but never identify him as a Jew.
Solzhenitsyn’s observations add to the growing evidence of the role of Jews as a hostile elite in the USSR–hostile to the native Russian population and willing to engage in the most brutal crimes against them. This translation is very important for bringing this message to the English-speaking world, if only to dispel the common representation of Jews as always and inevitably historical victims.
White Americans should think long and hard about what these observations imply for them as they become a minority in a country dominated by hostile minorities, including Jews as a hostile elite.
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Jews are exterminated in the mid thirties.
I question that as well. Its my understanding the NKVD etc were still significantly jewish.
further, just because Jews were in gulags doesn’t mean they weren’t the people putting them in Gulags- nazi germany had a german hierarchy and was in the interest of germans but they still put PLENTY of germans in concentration camps… so your point doesn’t prove anything.
Further, communism never could have been enabled with out international jewish co-ordination, support and financing. They were forthrightly and brutally oppressive towards the Christian majority – just like here, just like the Arenda system in poland in the 18th century (the revolt there, too, had a ‘anti semitic’ – or so described- character)
In fact even in places like hungry the uprising in the 1950s had a distinct anti-semitic (so described) character.
PS you should (Really!) read KM books documenting Jewish support of communism – its save to say that if there were no jews, there would be no communism in the west – just like if there were no jewish elite Multi-culuti and PC and open borders would not exist –
And yes, I agree plenty of WASP elite etc support this stuff but they do not turn around and make an exception for their in-group – as jews so blatantly do.
the Soviet Regime is at its bloodies post-Jewish representation. Jewish leadership is axed in the later 20s,
you should ask the Romanovs about that. WHo pulled the trigger? Who gave the order? and people were already dying by the 100,000’s in the 1920s – but again, The TROTSKYITES might have been purged but not ‘the jews’.
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Concerning evidence.. well, German high command were tried, found guilty and executed at nuremberg for steaming jews to death, and for Katyn. Guess they’re both true.
Look, you want to lose the argument, be my guest. I though you’d sleep better if you just took my word for it.
Jewish leadership in Soviet Union-
History 101: Kamenev, Zinoviev, Trotsky, please Google year they vanished.
Oh wait, you’re going to start playing with the definition of “Leadership” now!
Exterminated -
that’s what happened to Jews in 1937 and 1938. Jewish over-representation is over. And no, sorry, most of the extermination was being done by non-Jews at that point. Stalin deliberately sought to end Jewish power.
Gulag and Repression-
From your favorite source wikipedia (goes hand in hand with your wikiknowledge of History).
“In 1931–32 the Gulag had approximately 200,000 prisoners in the camps; in 1935 — approximately 800,000 in camps and 300,000 in colonies (annual averages), and in 1939 — about 1.3 millions in camps and 350,000 in colonies.[22] .”
Now, let’s see after the war, shall we?
“After World War II the number of inmates in prison camps and colonies, again, rose sharply, reaching approximately 2.5 million people by the early 1950s (about 1.7 million of whom were in camps).”
This graphic sums it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gulag_Prisoner_Stats_1934-1953.PNG
Note the first peak – that’s the Jewish influx.
Note the second peak (massive eh?) no Jews involved.
By far the Soviet’s greatest losses take place during the Second World War.
I can’t understand why anyone would want to deny Russians their rightful place in taking some responsibility for the barbarism of communism.
German high command executed?
Dude – get a brick –
what was it, five guy were popped off as a result of the show trials?!
You gotta be kidding me. The only real trials were conducted by Soviets.
Katyn? I am not sure anyone at Nuremberg took the slack. It might have been on the list, but boy – it sure didn’t make headlines.
Anyway, to lay this silly argument to rest:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM
Now if you can find me better estimates by all means.
…I must add – that never before had I been as convinced as now, that those who discuss Jews and Soviet repression do so entirely out of irrational and spiteful reasons. We have no trouble admitting to having partaken in some parts of the repressions. This is entirely different from
DENYING THE HOLOCAUST
and
that soviet genocides, carried out by little Russian hands, and ordered by a Georgian autocrat, are somehow entirely the fault of Jews.
AND just in case you are not up to date- Conquest no longer claims the Holodomor was deliberate.
So good luck.
“Gulag and Repression-
From your favorite source wikipedia (goes hand in hand with your wikiknowledge of History).
“In 1931–32 the Gulag had approximately 200,000 prisoners in the camps; in 1935 — approximately 800,000 in camps and 300,000 in colonies (annual averages), and in 1939 — about 1.3 millions in camps and 350,000 in colonies.[22] .”
Now, let’s see after the war, shall we?”
Whatever. BEFORE 1935, when your tribe called the shots, 20 MILLIONS DIED. It dwarfs all those 2.5 millions IN Gulags afterwards, at LEAST half of whom HAD SURVIVED.
So here take your pick and compare 20 million dead in the beginning and during the rule of the Tribe and a million dead after.
“After World War II the number of inmates in prison camps and colonies, again, rose sharply, reaching approximately 2.5 million people by the early 1950s (about 1.7 million of whom were in camps).”
“For a country to have a great writer is like having a second government.
That is why no regime has ever loved great writers, only minor ones”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Gas-chambers :
If we lived in a free world then we could investigate them.
But we don`t live in a free world so we can`t.
We can send scientists in to discover the truth, but they don`t, why not ?
We can re-test the gas-chambers, but they don`t, why not ?
We know our scientists can easily do the tests, but they don`t, why not ?
We have the technology to resolve these problems, so why not ?
Ask yourself … why not ?
Pondering the USSR
Sometimes the fact that powerful Jews were eliminated by Stalin in the power struggles of the 1930’s is used to suggest a cessation of Judaic power in that great state. But a more probable reality may be more a matter of there being such a density of ethnic Jews at the top places of power that any power struggle, such as that of Stalin against the Trotskyists in the 1930’s, inevitably had Jews as losers and as winners.
I personally strongly suspect that Stalin was himself very likely part ethnic Jew or he would not likely have been trusted by the international financial elite who continued to support him and the USSR even when their preferred man, Trotsky, was finessed by Stalin as Lenin’s successor. Lenin was not admitted to be Jewish until relatively recently. Probably that admission was a calculated concession to seeming openness while maintaining Stalin’s identity as officially a NON-Jew on whom could be blamed much of the great pillage of the Russian people.
Eustace Mullins mentioned in a radio interview that in the biography of Norman B. Podhoretz, Norman said the whole purpose of the Cold War was to arm Israel.
If that were so, then it would have best served that purpose for the Jews controlling the USSR to step back into the shadows and arrange some anti-Semitic incidents to be
effectively reported in the Western media; perhaps the only kind of reporting on the Jews in the USSR.
Meanwhile there was the transfer of the secret ATOM BOMB information to the USSR by Jewish Americans and the secret pact between Israel/Golda Meir and USSR/Stalin/Kaganovich in the late 1940’s.
Jump to the dissolution of the USSR after which presto! it was acknowledged that Jewish oligarchs now owned most of the wealth of the country.
This is not the stuff of an underdog group long since fallen from power.
the whole purpose of the Cold War was to arm Israel.
If that were so, then it would have best served that purpose for the Jews controlling the USSR to step back into the shadows and arrange some anti-Semitic incidents to be
effectively reported in the Western media; perhaps the only kind of reporting on the Jews in the USSR.
That recalls the Jewish-managed Jesse Jackson’s celebrated reference to New York as “Hymie-town.” Jesse had been criticized for his subservience by the Black Muslims and was trying to restore his street cred.
Solshenizyn in his “200 years together” gives often percentages of Jews in the Bolshevic apparatus, not always complete statistics – that may be for further research. It also seems sometimes difficult, thanks to their name-changing to find out who was Jewish, he researched names, fathers, families.
Some aspects from the chapter “The Thirties” preceding the here translated chapter “Gulag” -
Ethnic networking: is not necessary to have the majority in a committee to have a decisive influence, but the combination of those on the levers of power in the soviet system, e.g in the 1920s as in 1934 the jewish part was only 1/6 in the central committee but in the control commission of the party they had 1/3 and in the Central control commission 1930 10 of 25 were Jews of bloody fame. In the 1920s the Russian culture, science, church and history was destroyed by Bolshevics – Russians but also too often Jewish communists did it. It was almost counterrevolutionary to speak the word “Russian”, but ” Russian idiot/ ninny” was widely used in the press. When the Trotzkists were knocked out, the Jewish personnel in the party was decimated but that was by no means an anti-Jewish action. The purge of 1930-1933 was aimed at the Russian opposition elements in the party (Rykov, Bucharin.. ).
Lasar Kaganovich, a sinister merciless and in his vulgarity almost comical figure, was Stalin’s most important support then.
In the first half of the 1930s the Jewish part in the state-security was increasing high. In the 10 departmennts were 7 Jews. The leaders of the Gulags Solshenizyn has already named in “Archipel Gulag” and he says, it isn’t his fault, that very many were Jews, as were the in 1936 portrayed leaders of the White-sea-Baltic canal project of slave labor.
The sinister persecutor of the enforced collectivisation was Jakowlew-Epstein, also Kalmanovich, WG Feigin, MW Wolf, GG Roschal and others followed by horible starvation, death of 5-6 million farmers, kulacks and the annihilation of the Russian life based on the land. It weren’t all Jews who enforced it of course but the Jewish commissar was seen too often there. Planned long before by the Marxists.
yes, as James says, also the biggest purge 1937/8 was not explicitly against Jews, Solshenitsyn writes, but liquidated many of them since there were so many in the administration. The Jews were removed mostly from the first ranks more to secondary rows .Even as earlier Zionists and also traditional Jewish life was purged Bolshevic Jews did not decrease in numbers.. and when synagogues were closed also 10 000s of orthodox churches were destroyed.
To a great part Solshenitsyn replies to the arguments of often Jewish publications that are sometimes plausible, sometimes often contradicting historic evidence.
@Clytemnestra
“That’s exactly what I think happened. Once power had been consolidated over the ethnic Russians, different factions of the Bolsheviks turned on each other and killed one another, their families and anyone suspected of supporting them.”
Agree. Then as they were gradually weakened by in-fighting Stalin gradually got the upper hand until in the 50s and 60s there was a last anti-jewish push. From then they started trying to leave for America or Israel.
@James
“Jump to the dissolution of the USSR after which presto! it was acknowledged that Jewish oligarchs now owned most of the wealth of the country. This is not the stuff of an underdog group long since fallen from power.”
I’m not an expert but my understanding is they didn’t at first. When the USSR dissolved there were a lot of “western” advisors who went over there. I think the rise of the oligarchs had a lot to do with the privatizing deals that were decided at that time and the usual ethnic networking reasons that went with it.
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Wandrin says:
@Clytemnestra
“That’s exactly what I think happened. Once power had been consolidated over the ethnic Russians, different factions of the Bolsheviks turned on each other and killed one another, their families and anyone suspected of supporting them.”
Agree. Then as they were gradually weakened by in-fighting Stalin gradually got the upper hand until in the 50s and 60s there was a last anti-jewish push. From then they started trying to leave for America or Israel.
This is a very interesting idea, especially since so many here appear to think Jews are in complete control of things in the West right now. When can we expect the infighting to begin, I wonder? And can we help them along in this process?
Assuming the Jews fell from power in the USSR due to infighting, it might help us if we could ascertain exactly why. What happened back then to break the ethnic solidarity for which Jews everywhere are known?
It’s worth noting that Stalin himself wasn’t particularly anti-semitic. He surrounded himself with Jews like Kaganovich, whom he allowed to murder his own racial kin. Under Stalin, anti-semitism was made a capital crime. He supported the creation of Israel, and supplied aid to Israel in the 1948 war. His children married Jews, and he allegedly had affairs with numerous Jewish women. He was a good example of the raceless technocratic elite that the West is now cursed with.
Der Engel
“When can we expect the infighting to begin, I wonder? And can we help them along in this process?”
Option A) Assuming it worked the same way as in Russia it would require direct political power rather than the indirect form we have now. That can’t happen while America remains democratic because people generally like to vote for their own ethnic group. So it would require the suspension of democracy, direct jewish control and the murder of enough white people to make them feel secure. I’d imagine only the feeling of being completely secure from other rivals would allow them to drop their usual guard.
They’re working towards it. Once they have enough non-white voters to really lay siege to the constitution the end game will be close but that’s not an outcome i would hope for.
Option B) In my opinion it’s happening already over Israel – some of them put Israel first no matter what while others have become a bit semi-detached. If true, i’d imagine the main effect would be mutual literary screeching squads of ever greater volume and a higher likelihood of the Israelis doing something crazy as they felt more isolated.
I can’t think of anything that could help, either in a good way or a bad one.
“It’s worth noting that Stalin himself wasn’t particularly anti-semitic.”
I assume originally he was their Auslage Goy but proved smarter than he acted. But yes, i don’t think he was any more anti-jewish than anti everyone else except in terms of clever = potential threat.
foofritz,
Please help with the project. We badly need more people with knowledge of both Russian and good English.
Please translate ONE chapter.
There is already enormous infighting in the Jewish world. The liberal shits who tell us we can’t have “Jewish state” and the normal people who are trying to survive. The natural distance between the Orthodox who vote 70% Republican, and the other filth that votes for the shit-heads. If KM or the ADL weren’t the exclusive source on Jews, you’d know this.
By the way, I want to make it perfectly clear. Collectivization in the USSR cost millions of lives – but it was not genocide nor perpetrated as such. There were zelots, but they were not nearly exclusively Jewish. In fact, Jews comprised roughly 20 % of their ranks. Obviously being eloquent, they often got more note.
I keep on hearing the Churches that were destroyed. Oh please, the barbarism that is religion probably didn’t deserve better – but recall that thousands of synagogues were destroyed, and so were thousands of mosques.
As per Anti-Semitism being illegal – all forms of ethnic discrimination were banned in the USSR. This was multiculturalism on steroids.
The one good thing about the Germans, being a noble and cultured nation – was they admited responsibility for the Holocaust. The Russians need to accept responsibility for theirs, and not seek to blame Latvians, Poles, and Jews.
angry jew There were zelots, but they were not nearly exclusively Jewish. In fact, Jews comprised roughly 20 % of their ranks.
“the Jewish Century” and KM , and “two hundred years together’ document jewish over-representation – it is safe to say that communism would not have happened – without jews – particularly the curious zealous oppression of Christianity – and ‘anti semitism’ a capital offense.
A. N. FIELD, in Today’s Greatest Problem
“Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one.”
your ‘arguing’ that is was not characteristically jewish reminds me of those people who try to claim that the israeli lobby/support for israel is not jewish but christian (safe to say that if christian ‘zionists’ were supporting say, a christian state in jerusalem it would have little or no impact, just like the protestations of the allegedly powerful protestant organizations has little or no impact of treatment of CHRISTIANS in Israel today (they are not treated nicely – literally spit on by ultral orthodox (who do it as a religious obligation)
Orthodox who vote 70% Republican
Jews vote 90% for obama = and usually abuot 80-90 democrat the ONLY time they shift is for ISRAEL – they STILL hold views on immigration, multiculturalism that are anti western. The Neocons, other than militaristic support for israel are esentially left wing .
Some are begining to see muslims as a problem but their traditional hatred and mistrust of the Christian West makes them reluctant to stop anything that hastens its destruction.
“I keep on hearing the Churches that were destroyed. Oh please, the barbarism that is religion probably didn’t deserve better – but recall that thousands of synagogues were destroyed, and so were thousands of mosques.”
AngryJew, this is REALLY interesting statement about synagogues. I was actually looking for such comparative statistics. Can you please provide me your reference?
RF, I would be glad to help in translating, but am reading only from the German translation (2003) and even if to translate from this one, my Engl. isn’t fluent. Solshenitsyn isn’t that easy, gives sometimes ironic answers to distortions of history that come from Jewish sources (not even all names are clearly defined), but also remarkable in his appendix and footnotes so many publications are mentioned.
— other reviews: Solzhenitsyn on the Jews and Soviet Russia, Part I to IV
F. Roger Devlin http://www.toqonline.com/author/fdevlin/page/2/
and
http://www.barnesreview.org/html/sept2008lead_119.html
and interview
A World Split Apart
by: Alexander Solzhenitsyn,
http://www.truth-out.org/article/a-world-split-apart
views of the Jewish aspect and role in the Communist revolution
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
Summing up the situation at that time, Israeli historian Louis Rapoport writes:19
Immediately after the [Bolshevik] Revolution, many Jews were euphoric over their high representation in the new government. Lenin’s first Politburo was dominated by men of Jewish origins
Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution, including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists’ vows to eradicate anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the Revolution — partly because of the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet administration, as well as in the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization drives that followed. Historian Salo Baron has noted that an immensely disproportionate number of Jews joined the new Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka And many of those who fell afoul of the Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators.
The collective leadership that emerged in Lenin’s dying days was headed by the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, mean-spirited, curly-haired Adonis whose vanity knew no bounds.
“Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka,” wrote Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, “stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator.”20 In Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.
It isn’t only about the: “Who is to blame” but the charakteristic of the horrible social “experiments” and the parallels to the ongoing destruction of our European cultures today. Maybe under other names than Bolshevism or rather we have signs of a dictatorship of media and finance and expropriation and destruction of justice (constitution in the US). These signs of enforced collectivization or proletarisation are disastrous for European cultures and races that aimed for freedom based on a just social order.
If Germans accept responsibility for H–caust – still it is the only event in history not allowed to be investigated and doubt is a prerequisite of science of course. N-socialism was certainly a counter-movement to the threat of Bolshevism, as the history philosopher Ernst Nolte wrote: a causal nexus (this evoked the “historians dispute” with the followers of the Frankfurt school, that lasted 10 years)
i looked at the nizkor project (you seem to have misspelled it niTzkor, so may be angry but of somewhat dubious provenance jew) and it is giant windbag of self referencing blather, all kinds of workshops on how to spot and fight ‘denial’, ‘hate’, ‘antisemitism’, in fact most of the effort is spent on bolstering the failing hasbara rather than bringing out the incontestable facts, of which there are in fact just about none that i could see.
not one of the revisionists arguments and queries was countered in a meaningful way, not a single apology for innumerable, easily spotted lies in that sordid narrative (lack of even the tiniest reference to killing of jews in 6000 pages of politics, diplomacy and war accounts by churchill, eisenhower and de gaulle, not an iota of mention in tens of millions of messages in enigma encrypted radio traffic that nazis exchanged in confidence that they weren’t eavesdropped on, lack of ‘prussian blue’ cyanide stains on presumed gas chambers, even though the delousing rooms were soaked in it, furtive overnight change of plaque at auschwitz that bore the magic number of 4.5 million victims to 1.5 million as result of zundel trial, without explanation while the total of 6 million stood rock solid, how did those magical stiffs float to redistribute themselves smoothly around the other camps? the ground penetrating radar evidence at treblinka that where the mass burial supposedly took place the ground was totally undisturbed, lack of smokestacks venting toxic byproducts of gassings, utterly ludicrous evidence of idiots who blithely claimed that 750 thousand bodies were buried smack next to a functioning drinking well, that bodies incinerate totally (and in heavy winter conditions too) when lighted, women burn more easily and were used for kindling, gushing geysers of blood spurting on for months after the “atrocity” at babi yar, absolute lack of dna evidence – hey, the magicians of talmud missed anticipating that one, didn’t they …)
not one – if you know of just one, let us all know – just one to get the meaningful discussion going.
nizkor means “we will remember”, which says volumes about its true mission.
i found one particularly distasteful effort by nizkor to smear a revisionist researcher by name of djurdjevic by retroactively altering the data in World Almanac and Book of Facts.
namely, he pointed out that the stated number of jews, in the us and worldwide in 1940 was 15,290,983 and the corresponding figure for 1949 was 15,713,638.
six million anyone?
the fact that nizkor saw fit to go after djurdjevic instead of engage him in open debate is to me indicative of that central jewish characteristic – not just propensity to lie, but absolute, blind worship of lie, the god of lies, starting with kol nidre, the single most sacred recitation by anyone rightfully calling himself a jew.
and this is the crux of our difference, angry jew.
i am angry too, why not rename niz-kor to nidre-kor?
Jewish infighting: left-wing Jews are nation-wreckers who hate Christians, right-wing Jews are nation-wreckers who hate Christians and Muslims.
I keep on hearing the Churches that were destroyed. Oh please, the barbarism that is religion probably didn’t deserve better
- Christian art, religion, culture, ethics and architecture is the very fabric of the west. I do not wonder you more or less support the bolshivik view (including the murder of clergy?) destroying ancient churches – no doubt you would smile with glee if Chartres and Notre Dame suffered the same fate.
You pretty much confirm, by your own words- you a pro white Jew- the culture-destroying hostile attitude of jews towards the west.
As a caveot, yes, some ‘odonist’ white nationalists have the same views but they are more of a nuisance than a destructive threat.
AngryJew, this is REALLY interesting statement about synagogues. I was actually looking for such comparative statistics
some religious jews who refused to renounce their ways were put in gulogs and some synagoges were shut – but violence and hostility was directed towards Christians, overwhelmingly. and as AS points out, they were better treated in the gulags
I keep on hearing the Churches that were destroyed. Oh please, the barbarism that is religion probably didn’t deserve better
sorry for multiple posts everyone but….
this really struck me..
Think about the positive effect of Christianity on the west- the foundations of science (this is beyond dispute) ethics -(for example christians ended infanticide and blood sport, founded hospitals (the term from from hospice) and universities, nearly all our great art is Christian themed (statistically, pagan and roman art, though admirable is only a small % of western art)
it was the strength of faith that made us hold out against the Muslims – pagans never did and never will be able to resist…
yet, jews literally see no value in it – and in fact only see it as negative. And that is reflected in their thoughts and deeds.
Why do they call it – Holocaust ? There`s millions of Jewish people running around. Did they all rise from the dead ?
David Irving doesn`t deny that the Nazis killed Jews – it was a war, Jews were Commies, Commies were Jews, so the Nazis were just killing their enemies.
Irving only doubts that the Nazis used Gas-Chambers – and as Lobro shows, the evidence speaks for itself.
3 years in prison for asking questions.
Damn ! What a scam.
His book, Banged Up, is pretty tragic. His family lost their home and one of his family members was unwell.
“Collectivization in the USSR cost millions of lives – but it was not genocide nor perpetrated as such. There were zelots, but they were not nearly exclusively Jewish. In fact, Jews comprised roughly 20% of their ranks.”
I don’t think the Bolshevik holocaust was consciously genocidal although disproportionate jewish involvement may have made the anti-Christian element more extreme.
I do think the Bolshevik holocaust has been as covered up as much as possible and the jewish involvement in it has been covered up even more. This is important both for reasons of historical truth and also so the people who died get a fitting memorial.
I don’t think jews became genocidal towards white people until after WWII.
When i say “I don’t think the Bolshevik holocaust was consciously genocidal” i meant as a whole.
Individual elements of it may have been, in particular the starving of the Ukrainians as revenge for various pogroms.
AngryJew said :”The one good thing about the Germans, being a noble and cultured nation – was they admited responsibility for the Holocaust”
So there`s only one good thing about the entire German race ?
And that is that they all admit responsibility for the Holocaust.
Dude you`re so funny.
let me sharpen an already perceptive comment, tictac;
in the world of angrrrryjew, nobility and culture are defined by solely by admission of holocaust.
ignoble primitives like us resist admission without proof but there is a method to this madness.
many heretics, witches, warlocks and even a few jews were put to burning stake after similar display of culture and nobility, of course after having bones broken on the wheel, etc.
It is possible that the scholars of the academic institutes for defining and teaching genocide are only to 20% jews but as far as my knowledge goes, one still can earn a high price if he provides a single original, not falsified, paper of the Nazis that proves a plan for “exterminating” Jews, Slavs, Gypsies except that the language of war, like annihilating the enemy only means in the common usage: destroying them and “final solution” means deporting to Madagaskar or Eastern Europe.. and that Jews in the East were considered communists generally when some of them often were commissars and partisans unfortunately but who had also murdered Russians, Baltic people, and maybe were shot by special units often consisting of former victims of Bolshevic terror.
Jakow Jakowlew-Epstein headed the peoples agrarian commissariate, Solshenitsyn writes in chapter 19, (the 1930s years), for long years his career had been agitation and propaganda . 1921 he led the head-committee for political education in the peoples-comimssariate for education, later the agitprop- department in the ZK (central.committee) then vice-leader of the ZK- press department – but already in 1923 on the XII. party rally plans to be decided upon were sketched by him for the politics on the villages, and 1929 he saw himself catapulted on the chair of the peoples agrarian commissar
. After that he took the lead of “The Great Break”, the attack of collectivization, [1930-33] that seized millions, with its eager helpers of accomplishing (executing) it. An author of our days writes, “Additionally, at the end of the 1920s, for the first time not only a few Jewish Communists came on stage on the flat county side as commanders and masters over life and dead. Only during the collectivization the picture of the Jew as the hated enemy of the farmer was definitely coined – even there, where one until then never had come to see a Jew.” (252)
- Solshenitsyn goes on to write, that it were wrong to say, it was only Jews who executed the de-kulack-ization, and it was a shame how many Russians collaborated with the communist strategy.
But it was planned murder of the country-base of Russian life and cultural tradition: the stored grain was taken away from the farmers by force, they were deported to the Taiga and dumped to die there, train-stations were closed for starving families, travel permits to cities denied, the dieing were lying on the roadsides. Not only in the Ukraine but on the Wolga and other Russian areas. The result later then were armies of uprooted industrial slave- laborers clad in rags.
By Bolshevism the Russian culture was destroyed, church and orthodox clergy persecuted, cultural basis on the land broken, in the universities the institutes closed and had to follow the new “Marxist dogmas”, professors deported, even less suspicious engineers were persecuted and history eradicated, the new soviet man should have no history.
Social, ethnic networks were radically broken up., that also means that the young were led to despise their elders, to ignore traditional culture, that rich heritage, the sum of the experience of the ancestors. And that has a parallel with the now widespread teaching of the Frankfurt school since the 1960. Traditional culture is the basis for the present and today in Western societies it is displaced and replaced with engineered Tv and massmedia junk.
So I think that the ability to networking comes by learning to cooperate. To respect others and have higher goals is taught in Christianity (e.g.), and it has an ethnic basis: Germans held high: community, public spirit, teamwork and “live and let live” and put the common value higher than the ego sometimes.
Even the Nazis did protect the ethnic basis and traditions. Now Germans are made to believe to be single guilty of Worldwars, to have an evil history. The Frankfurt school did work on that, as H-channel and Holywood also. These tactics deceive the people about guilt, don’t show the real causes and connections in history, the Bolshevic threat has nothing to do with WW-2 ? Bankers like Rothschilds aren’t profiting from wars?
How these ethnic traits of community are destroyed in our time can be studied in the extreme in Bolshevism. Of course, in Western societies now it isn’t so visible, it is on a higher niveau, a consumer paradise on a basis of financial debts (get everything instantly without diligent effort), but the devolution of mind and community can be observed: a proletarization.
Solshenitsyn refuses to blame the Jews only and says the Russian people have a responsibility if they let themselves to be led to destruction. Although there was and is now too resistance and warnings about the decline.
@foofritz
“But it was planned murder of the country-base of Russian life and cultural tradition”
Good point.
AJ spouts more made up tales as if they were facts. Very jewish tactic. Sure. He’ll deny it. Then check his sources. Oy gevalt. Jews always sweat and stammer when they’re pointed out as being over represented. Point out the evil, white hating, West defiling zionists surrounding Obama for instance, and they go as berserk as AJ.
Communism is judaism.Communism is a jewih fraud. Communism is all about one thing and one thing ONLY, jews taking over the state. The highest worldly power you can get is to control the state. And that power the jews do NOT want to share with any non-jew.
To control the state in a comminist dictatorship you MUST control the Secret Police and that the jews did in Sovjet-Russia lock, stock and barell. Search: “Stalin’s Jews” by Sever Plocker in Ynet, both jewish.
Who controls the Secret Police IS the state and the jews was in total control of the Secret Police in Sovjet-Russia from 1917 to 1990.
The first thing the jews did was taking the phone book and kill everybody on the list. Anyone that could afford a phone in Russia 1917 was the elite. ln the phone book the entire old russian elite was by name, adress and occupation. What the jews did was that they went to their home and took man, wife and children to the forest and shot them in the back of the head, Next a jewish family moved into the empty house. With maid and butler still there.
What the jews did was that they exchanged the old russian elite with a New Jew Elite.
The next thing the jews did was that they turned Russia into the jews proxy war machine, the jews private army for world conquest. 35 percent of Sovjet GNP was used on the military. Sovjet imperialism was in fact JEWish imperialism for JEWish world conquest.
What the jews did in Russia the jews wanted to do in the whole western Europe. Hitler knew this and it was ONLY Hitler and Germaný that stopped the Moscow jews from conquering the whole wester Europe.
The whole communist conjcept is very easy, it’s all about the jews taking over the country. Communism is an updatet quick version of the jews Talmud. That is why 99 percent of all jews are communists. But to hide what communism really is all about the Jew Karl Marx wrote a shitload of marxist mumbo-jumbo in order to cofuse the (m)asses.
The mass killing of the entire old russian elite was pre-planned. The smear-slander words Kulak, counterrevolutionary, enemy of the state etc etc are all jewish codeword for – Enemy Of The Jews. What the jews did was that they killed off anyone that in the slightest way could be suspected to resist the jews from taking over Russia.
The mass killing was PRE-PLANNED. All the stries the jews have told about mass graves are true – BUT THE JEWS DID IT! The jews are the biggest massmurderers in history of man.
Communjism is a jewish fraud. Communism is all about ´jews taking over the country and replacing the old elite with a New Jew Elite.
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the whole purpose of the Cold War was to arm Israel.
If that were so, then it would have best served that purpose for the Jews controlling the USSR to step back into the shadows and arrange some anti-Semitic incidents to be
Thank you for an entertaining couple of hours, Angry Jew. I laughed and I laughed and I laughed again…
(Tell me – do you write all your own material? I’m only asking because your diatribes all seem eerily familiar to me for some reason…)
My understanding is after the Bolshevik Revolution
the Christian churches were closed and often torn down
especially Russian Orthodox churches; and synagogues
were closed but not torn down . Also,Christian clergy
were treated with great disrespect and rabbis were
treated with respect.
In the matter od the HOLOCAUST, I have found
these three videos to be extremely illuminating,
and EXCELLENT!
I highly recommend them to anyone interested in
the subject of why draconian laws were put in place
in Europe that punish questioning the official story
of the holocaust. Truth does not need such protections
so what’s up?
Seek and ye shall find….but don’t mention it if you
go to Europe.
Be sure to watch the full length videos as excerpts are similarly labeled.
David Cole: The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz
62 mi on google video
ONE THIRD OF THE HOLOCAUST [full version is 416 minutes at web address below, may not come up in simple search on google video]
4:15:55 [4 hours 15 min]- on google video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9174186302325317179&ei=vWseTNWgPI-GqQO61aneCg&q=Buchenwald+dumb+dumb&hl=en#docid=-1183568676926459928
BUCHENWALD-A DUMB DUMB PORTRAYAL OF EVIL
2:21:47 [2 hours and 21 min] on google video
Ooops, I forgot to mention this bit of history:
in Wikipedia I found that when Golda Meir
went to the USSR in 1948 as Ambassador:
“”During her brief stint there, which ended in 1949, she attended high holiday services at the synagogue in Moscow, where she was mobbed by thousands of Russian Jews chanting her name. The Israeli 10,000 shekel banknote issued in November 1984 bore a portrait of Meir on one side and the image of the crowd that turned out to cheer her in Moscow on the other.[16]“
@RF
Purebloods can dish it, but they can’t take it.
SS
The Jews OWN census for the last century. AJC, American Jewish Committee. Jacob Schiff started AJC.
http://www.ajcarchives.org/main.php?GroupingId=40
I highly recommend them to anyone interested in
the subject of why draconian laws were put in place
in Europe that punish questioning the official story
of the holocaust.
In the USA there is this strange phenomenon:
1) The Jews generally are of much higher intelligence than the general population (I always thought that centuries of pogroms eliminated the stupid);
2) On the other hand the large majority of educated Jews are communists or at least socialists; they always vote for Democrats – especially the far left ones.
How to explain this?
“In the USA there is this strange phenomenon:
1) The Jews generally are of much higher intelligence than the general population (I always thought that centuries of pogroms eliminated the stupid);
2) On the other hand the large majority of educated Jews are communists or at least socialists; they always vote for Democrats – especially the far left ones.
How to explain this?”
Read Culture of Critique by our humble host. You will find most answers there.